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| amaron | i followed guides from phil's book about creating skin | 12:42 |
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| amaron | i renamed BaseMacros and context\@@base_macros\page | 12:43 |
| amaron | with other name in all files where its is mentioned | 12:43 |
| amaron | that way i want different parts of application to have different skin | 12:44 |
| amaron | i've got a traversal error for that path | 12:44 |
| amaron | i don't understand why | 12:44 |
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| amaron | how to set some view in zcml to use skin other than default? | 13:03 |
| philiKON | it's all explained in my book | 13:05 |
| philiKON | browser:page layer="..." | 13:05 |
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| amaron | philiKON: i allready made skin, and used it as default, as in your book | 13:08 |
| amaron | when i use browser:page layer="..." what to place there in layer? where is the layer name? | 13:09 |
| amaron | defined in interface for skin? | 13:10 |
| philiKON | the layer is the skin interface | 13:11 |
| philiKON | or an interface that the skin inherits from | 13:11 |
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| amaron | i still dont get it, skin is something what has collection of layers but layer is interface for skin | 13:23 |
| philiKON | no, a layer is an interface | 13:26 |
| philiKON | a skin is an interface, composed of the layer interfaces that it contains | 13:27 |
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| amaron | ok, when i try to add layer directive to my page, this page becomes unavailable | 13:29 |
| amaron | if i use ++skin++skinName/that_page | 13:29 |
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| amaron | without layer directive in zcml | 13:29 |
| amaron | page is available and in skin i want to use | 13:30 |
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| amaron | i still cannot use that page with other skin than default, without specifying skin in url | 13:32 |
| amaron | when i put layer="....IMySkin" that page becomes unavailable | 13:33 |
| timte | if you want to use skins you need to apply them somehow, apache rewrite is one way, traversal events is another, not sure what other solutions there are | 13:35 |
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| amaron | :/ | 13:41 |
| amaron | is it so complicated to use one page in one skin, other page in another? | 13:42 |
| amaron | why can be used something as skin directive in zcml which apply skin for specific page? | 13:45 |
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| timte | you can use browser:defaultSkin if you want the same skin for all pages | 13:47 |
| amaron | no, i dont want to use that | 13:48 |
| amaron | i want to use most of pages in one skin | 13:48 |
| amaron | and public pages with another | 13:48 |
| amaron | so, i have default skin for all pages except some | 13:49 |
| amaron | one way is to forget skinning mechanism | 13:49 |
| amaron | and do templates for them | 13:49 |
| amaron | i hoped that i could use that mechanism | 13:49 |
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| amaron | i also i dont understand why i cannot use metal:use-macro="context/@@my_macros/page" instead of standard_macros | 13:53 |
| amaron | if i try to solve this on template level | 13:53 |
| amaron | since i defined my_macros same as standard_macros... | 13:54 |
| amaron | instead of that i'm getting traversal error | 13:58 |
| timte | I don't really see how you want to use skins. If you want the skin to automatically apply for a page there's no need to specify it. | 13:58 |
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| amaron | timte: simply i want to have two skins | 14:01 |
| amaron | and some pages to use skin_one, other to use skin_two | 14:01 |
| amaron | without specifing ++skin++ in url | 14:02 |
| amaron | whatever i tried to make that happen | 14:02 |
| amaron | i failed | 14:02 |
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| timte | do you want it for a certain subfolder? | 14:06 |
| amaron | no, i want it for specific pages | 14:07 |
| amaron | but i can arrange for that pages be in separate folder | 14:07 |
| amaron | u think i can override skin only for that folder? | 14:08 |
| amaron | that could be solution | 14:08 |
| amaron | but i want to do it for specific container which can be added someplace else | 14:09 |
| amaron | so i want it for specific interfaces | 14:09 |
| amaron | nevermind, i lost my patient with this | 14:10 |
| amaron | im getting too nervous about doing simple things so much | 14:10 |
| amaron | ill do it without skins | 14:10 |
| timte | you can use a traveral events to apply the skin to the request for certain folders/pages, that's the only way I know how to do it | 14:11 |
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| dennis__ | timte how can you programmatically change the skin like that? | 15:53 |
| timte | alsoProvides(request, IMySkin) | 15:58 |
| timte | that's a guess, never did it myself | 15:58 |
| dennis__ | ahh | 16:00 |
| dennis__ | so obvious :) | 16:00 |
| dennis__ | thanks! thats actually very useful | 16:01 |
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| amaron | timte: good idea about alsoProvides | 16:14 |
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| amaron | can it be used in __init__? | 16:15 |
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| amaron | hmm, i tried with alsoProvides for request in __init__ of specific view, it doesnt work | 16:23 |
| timte | that's because it doesn't create the view if it's not found for the current skin | 16:26 |
| amaron | i dont understand | 16:27 |
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| srichter | benji: are you there? | 16:45 |
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| benji | srichter: I think so. ;) | 16:47 |
| srichter | benji: I want to talk about the mechanize issue | 16:48 |
| benji | sure | 16:48 |
| srichter | before we play E-mail tag | 16:48 |
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| derek_richardson | zc.recipe.egg was released 2 days ago. Now, when trying to re-run a buildout that was conde before the z.r.e release, I get a VersionConflict: http://paste.plone.org/17756 | 17:22 |
| derek_richardson | s/conde/done | 17:22 |
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| amaron | how to write custom index.html page? | 20:29 |
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| amaron | i declared page name="index.html" but default one is called | 20:29 |
| mgedmin | well then, for some reason your page is not used | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | the reason could be: different skin/layer | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | different object interface | 20:30 |
| mgedmin | different default view name (although I don't know any "standard" content objects that declare a different default view name) | 20:31 |
| amaron | this page is used for any other path except root | 20:31 |
| amaron | since i used for="*" | 20:32 |
| amaron | and class with __call__ method | 20:32 |
| mgedmin | hmm, strange | 20:33 |
| srichter | for="*" is more general than for="IFolder" for example, so the more specific ada[ter wins | 20:33 |
| mgedmin | oh, right, of course | 20:33 |
| amaron | ah, ok | 20:33 |
| mgedmin | can you actually write a single view that would really be suitable for any object? | 20:34 |
| * mgedmin has doubts | 20:34 | |
| amaron | srichter: thanks, it worked, and i had to place it in overrides.zcml due conflict | 20:37 |
| srichter | right | 20:37 |
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