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| nouri | Can an adapter factory raise an exception to indicate that it can't do the adaptation after all? | 01:53 | 
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| nouri | From what I see in the interfaces file, IComponentArchitecture.getAdapters doesn't seem to promise to return adapters in their order of specialization. If it did, I could probably roll my own way of doing this. | 01:54 | 
| nouri | Hmm, maybe this is also an indication of bad design on my part; I'm still curious. :) | 01:58 | 
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| J1m | nouri, an adapter factory can return None to indicate that there is no adapter. | 02:14 | 
| nouri | J1m: Ah, great. And then it's the next one's turn? | 02:14 | 
| J1m | getAdapters only returns the most specific adapter for each name. | 02:15 | 
| J1m | I blieve. | 02:16 | 
| J1m | I believ. | 02:16 | 
| nouri | Right, I've read that. I'm wondering when my factory returns None, if then the next less specialized adapter will get its turn. | 02:16 | 
| J1m | No. | 02:17 | 
| J1m | Returning None means there is no adapter. | 02:17 | 
| nouri | Okay | 02:17 | 
| J1m | It effectively vetos the adaptation. | 02:17 | 
| TheSkrill | Hello all, I was wondering if its possible to register an event subscriber from the zmi? | 02:18 | 
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| TheSkrill | ... or is it only possible to to register a subscriber in ZCML? | 02:28 | 
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| mubix | How goes it? | 05:06 | 
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| mubix | no live lurkers about? | 05:21 | 
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| mubix | sup hexsprite | 05:37 | 
| hexsprite | mm just got home from a xmas party ;) | 05:38 | 
| mubix | xmas party already? | 05:39 | 
| hexsprite | yeah... why not ... who needs excuses anyways | 05:39 | 
| mubix | just figured you'd be still full from Thanksgiving | 05:40 | 
| hexsprite | oh im in canada our thanksgiving is in october :) | 05:41 | 
| mubix | gotcha | 05:44 | 
| mubix | so are you a Leafs fan or are you more westerly? | 05:44 | 
| hexsprite | well im in toronto so naturally a leafs fan... though they stink... apparently they are one of the most profitable franchises somehow | 05:45 | 
| hexsprite | losing seems to be very profitable | 05:45 | 
| mubix | merchandising | 05:50 | 
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| * baijum created an experimental PyGTK application which use ZCA to glue components with selectable data storage (ZODB & PySQLIte) : http://www.muthukadan.net/downloads/zcalib.tar.bz2 | 09:10 | |
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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:35 | 
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| instantfoo | hmm, am I missing something obvious here.. isn't there a simple way to have your search result nicely sorted by e.g date? | 12:41 | 
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| philiKON | instantf1o: well, sort the results if you want to :) | 12:56 | 
| philiKON | it's not going to be very fast if the result set is large, though | 12:56 | 
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| instantf1o | philiKON: yeah.. | 13:00 | 
| instantf1o | haven't really looked too much what apply does, maybe i could roll my own so it also does a documents_to_values lookup on each of its result so I get a (intid, date) as result | 13:02 | 
| instantf1o | value lookup should be cheaper than waking the object :) | 13:03 | 
| philiKON | true | 13:03 | 
| philiKON | if you have a date index, yes | 13:04 | 
| philiKON | in fact, the date index should keep things in a sorted way anyway | 13:04 | 
| philiKON | since it's a btree | 13:04 | 
| instantf1o | yep | 13:06 | 
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| instantf1o | i thought such a common use case would have an already written solution, well well :) | 13:19 | 
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| timte | allowed_interface=".interfaces.IMyInterface" | 14:07 | 
| timte | will that not include the attributes that IMyInterface inherits from another interface? | 14:08 | 
| timte | class IMyInterface(ISomeOtherInterface): pass | 14:09 | 
| timte | it works when I allowed_interface=".interfaces.ISomeOtherInterface" but not with allowed_interface=".interfaces.IMyInterface" | 14:09 | 
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| mgedmin | timte: this is strange | 14:47 | 
| mgedmin | what is "it" in the "it works" statement? | 14:47 | 
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| malthe | zope.thread.local vs. threading.local –– ? | 15:24 | 
| malthe | if one is obsolete, why isn't it a module alias? | 15:24 | 
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| timte | mgedmin: I get unauthorized when it "works" | 16:26 | 
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| timte | mgedmin: when it not works of course | 16:28 | 
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| mgedmin | timte: unauthorized != forbiddenattribute | 16:38 | 
| mgedmin | iow the security declaration works fine | 16:38 | 
| mgedmin | but your user doesn't have access | 16:38 | 
| mgedmin | check for missing __parent__ | 16:38 | 
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| timte | mgedmin: but it works if I specify allowed_attributes="someattr" or allowed_interface=".interfaces.ISomeOtherInterface" and ISomeOtherInterface has a someattr method | 16:46 | 
| timte | mgedmin: but no when I have allowed_interface=".interfaces.IMyInterface" where IMyInterface inherits ISomeOtherInterface | 16:47 | 
| timte | this is 3.2, perhaps it's fixed in 3.3 | 16:47 | 
| mgedmin | strange | 16:49 | 
| mgedmin | what directive is that? | 16:49 | 
| timte | browser:page | 16:50 | 
| mgedmin | hm | 16:50 | 
| * mgedmin never used allowed_foo on pages, so /me never noticed | 16:50 | |
| mgedmin | yep, you're right | 16:50 | 
| mgedmin | it's a bug in the browser:page directive | 16:50 | 
| timte | did you try yourself? | 16:51 | 
| mgedmin | no, I just read the source code | 16:51 | 
| mgedmin | it's the same in zope 3.2 as on zope 3 trunk | 16:51 | 
| timte | strange noone noticed | 16:51 | 
| mgedmin | timte: I suggest you file a bug on http://launchpad.net/projects/zope3/+bugs | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | wait, no | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | it's not a bug | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | it's just something very strange | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | my reading of the code was incorrect | 16:52 | 
| timte | oh, damn :) | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | I assumed IInterface.__iter__ returns only direct names | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | but it also returns inherited ones | 16:52 | 
| mgedmin | according to the interface docstring, at least | 16:52 | 
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| mgedmin | or, if it is a bug, then it's in some other place | 16:53 | 
| timte | I'll test interface.__iter__ in my code | 16:54 | 
| mgedmin | put a breakpoint in viewmeta.py, where the browser:page directive is handler | 16:54 | 
| mgedmin | check required['yourattributename'] after it calls _handle_allowed_interfaces | 16:55 | 
| timte | interface.__iter__ was correct so I'll try this other suggestion | 16:57 | 
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| timte | mgedmin: it was a bug in Five (which is fixed in later versions though) | 17:46 | 
| mgedmin | okay | 17:46 | 
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| timte | mgedmin: thanks for the help though, forgot to say that :) | 17:58 | 
| timte | can I get a list of older releases of infrae.subversion in cheeseshop? | 18:06 | 
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| nouri | timte: Now you can | 18:11 | 
| timte | nouri: how? | 18:13 | 
| nouri | timte: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/infrae.subversion | 18:13 | 
| timte | ah | 18:13 | 
| timte | only dev releases :/ | 18:13 | 
| nouri | sure | 18:14 | 
| nouri | There's also SVN :) | 18:14 | 
| timte | nouri: when buildout installs infrae.subversion it spits out lots of garbage, do you know if it's possible to get rid of that? | 18:15 | 
| nouri | When it installs it? | 18:16 | 
| timte | yeah, or downloads | 18:16 | 
| nouri | Dunno, it's probably just warnings. | 18:16 | 
| timte | nouri: you use infrae.subversion I assume? don't you get that garbage? | 18:17 | 
| nouri | Ah, pylib is not setting the zip_safe flag | 18:17 | 
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| timte | nouri: I saw your blog about infrae.subversion some time ago, you said infrae.subversion was great because changes in the checkout are lost | 18:20 | 
| timte | nouri: the readme says the opposite, https://svn.infrae.com/buildout/infrae.subversion/trunk/README.txt | 18:20 | 
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| nouri | timte: Because they are *not* lost, right? | 18:21 | 
| timte | nouri: that's what the readme says | 18:21 | 
| nouri | timte: Anything else is a typo | 18:21 | 
| timte | nouri: oh, I should check your blog again | 18:21 | 
| timte | nouri: I actually believed you :) | 18:21 | 
| nouri | timte: "infrae.subversion takes care not to wipe any changes that you might have done in the checkout." | 18:22 | 
| nouri | timte: It doesn't take care of *wiping* your changes, right. | 18:23 | 
| timte | I must have misread, grrr | 18:24 | 
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| nouri | timte: Tarek actually had the idea of adding a flag for that. Patches are welcome. | 18:27 | 
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| nathany | does anyone know what egg the tools like i18nextract live in under the new-egg-world-order? | 20:33 | 
| nathany | i seem to recall seeing a setup.py w/the appropriate entry point defined @ one point, but where it lived escapes me now | 20:33 | 
| nathany | found it: zope.app.locales | 20:39 | 
| * benji imagines nathany playing hide-and-seek with packages. ;) | 20:48 | |
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| nathany | heh | 20:51 | 
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| whit | anyone done any loading of components or directive by means other than zcml? | 23:10 | 
| * whit is looking for something to reuse | 23:11 | |
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| whit | could even be a system for choosing what zcml to load by some other config mechanism | 23:11 | 
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| timte | whit: you mean alternative ways to register stuff? like grok? | 23:15 | 
| whit | timte: yeah | 23:16 | 
| whit | I'm interested in say using entry points to expose possible registrations, then using a directive to load them (mediated perhaps by a config file) | 23:17 | 
| whit | timte: mainly curious whether anyone has done something like this | 23:18 | 
| timte | I don't know much about entry points | 23:18 | 
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