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Theuni | J1m: is ZODB's __version__ intended to be reliable? | 16:41 |
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J1m | Theuni, no | 16:54 |
J1m | we should get rid of it. | 16:54 |
Theuni | k | 16:55 |
J1m | If we really want to query version info at run time, we should use pkg_resources. | 16:55 |
J1m | As I did recently for the monitor server. | 16:55 |
Theuni | right. at least for those cases where it is distributed as an egg | 16:55 |
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mcdonc | is _p_changed a trinary value (None, True, False) or is it a binary (None+False, True)? | 21:53 |
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* philiKON_ didn't knwo it could be None | 22:07 | |
mcdonc | philiKON_: there is at least one test in the Zope2 implementation of webdav's propfind that checks if it's None explicitly before deactivating it when iterating over each item in objectValues(). if it's none, it calls _p_deactivate. But it's False. | 22:10 |
mcdonc | so objects never get deactivated, when i'm thinking maybe they should | 22:10 |
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mcdonc | but i know there are weird trinary values floating around in some of those _p_ attrs | 22:11 |
mcdonc | (as per some dim memory of "sticky" objects) | 22:12 |
mcdonc | complicated by the fact that i'm using zodb 3.6 of course | 22:13 |
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mcdonc | yup... http://paste.plone.org/18952 | 22:16 |
philiKON_ | mcdonc: you don't happen to know a program for the mac that can slow mp3s down w/o changing the pitch? | 22:17 |
mcdonc | philiKON_: never used it but... http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/12457 | 22:17 |
philiKON_ | cool thanks | 22:17 |
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philiKON_ | mcdonc: i ended up using audacity since that's free | 22:48 |
mcdonc | philiKON_: ah good... its a nice program | 22:49 |
philiKON_ | it can even read and save mp3 | 22:49 |
philiKON_ | yeah | 22:49 |
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jenner | hi there | 23:14 |
jenner | guys, does z3 play well with sqlalchemy? | 23:15 |
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flox | jenner: it should | 23:19 |
flox | http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/z3c.sqlalchemy | 23:19 |
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jenner | flox: nice, thanks | 23:20 |
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* jenner just realized that he needs an update on z3 - two years of abstinence coding mostly java apps took their toll | 23:37 | |
jenner | any hints on where I should start? | 23:47 |
benji_ | jenner: perhaps the change notes for the last few years worth of releases would be a good start | 23:51 |
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* jenner tries grok first | 23:53 | |
flox | jenner: if u need to install easily Zope 3.4, look at Philipp's app zopeproject | 23:53 |
flox | http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_09_16_announcing-zopeproject-0 | 23:53 |
jenner | flox: thanks | 23:53 |
flox | np | 23:58 |
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