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TheuniJ1m: is ZODB's __version__ intended to be reliable?16:41
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J1mTheuni, no16:54
J1mwe should get rid of it.16:54
Theunik16:55
J1mIf we really want to query version info at run time, we should use pkg_resources.16:55
J1mAs I did recently for the monitor server.16:55
Theuniright. at least for those cases where it is distributed as an egg16:55
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mcdoncis _p_changed a trinary value (None, True, False) or is it a binary (None+False, True)?21:53
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* philiKON_ didn't knwo it could be None22:07
mcdoncphiliKON_: there is at least one test in the Zope2 implementation of webdav's  propfind that checks if it's None explicitly before deactivating it when iterating over each item in objectValues().  if it's none, it calls _p_deactivate.  But it's False.22:10
mcdoncso objects never get deactivated, when i'm thinking maybe they should22:10
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mcdoncbut i know there are weird trinary values floating around in some of those _p_ attrs22:11
mcdonc(as per some dim memory of "sticky" objects)22:12
mcdonccomplicated by the fact that i'm using zodb 3.6 of course22:13
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* philiKON_ goes back to practicing the sax :)22:16
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mcdoncyup... http://paste.plone.org/1895222:16
philiKON_mcdonc: you don't happen to know a program for the mac that can slow mp3s down w/o changing the pitch?22:17
mcdoncphiliKON_: never used it but... http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/1245722:17
philiKON_cool thanks22:17
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philiKON_mcdonc: i ended up using audacity since that's free22:48
mcdoncphiliKON_: ah good... its a nice program22:49
philiKON_it can even read and save mp322:49
philiKON_yeah22:49
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jennerhi there23:14
jennerguys, does z3 play well with sqlalchemy?23:15
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floxjenner: it should23:19
floxhttp://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/z3c.sqlalchemy23:19
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jennerflox: nice, thanks23:20
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* jenner just realized that he needs an update on z3 - two years of abstinence coding mostly java apps took their toll23:37
jennerany hints on where I should start?23:47
benji_jenner: perhaps the change notes for the last few years worth of releases would be a good start23:51
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* jenner tries grok first23:53
floxjenner: if u need to install easily Zope 3.4, look at Philipp's app zopeproject23:53
floxhttp://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_09_16_announcing-zopeproject-023:53
jennerflox: thanks23:53
floxnp23:58

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