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vednishi all.  I had a question about the new edition of philiKON's book00:04
vednisdoes anyone know if there are revisions in the third edition?  Or is it a reprint, due to the great sales of the second edition?00:05
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philiKON_vednis: mostly the latter00:31
philiKON_vednis: if you have the 2nd edition and you haven't burned it for some reason, you don't need to buy the 3rd ed.00:31
vednishehe00:31
philiKON_though i hear the 2nd ed. makes for some great firewood00:31
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philiKON_so why don't you get a 3rd ed. for the winter :)00:32
vednisI was actually trying to decide if I should wait for the 3rd ed., or just pick up the 2nd.00:32
philiKON_3rd ed. is out00:32
vednisin Europe, yes00:33
philiKON_well, y eah00:33
philiKON_america always takes a few weeks00:33
philiKON_i wish that would go faster00:33
vednisbut neither Chapters nor Amazon in Canada have it yet00:33
vednisit is 'pending'00:33
vednisUS Amazon got it on the 18th00:33
philiKON_then get the 2nd ed.00:34
philiKON_this is what's been corrected in the 3rd ed.: http://worldcookery.com/Errata00:34
philiKON_that and spelling/grammar errors00:34
vedniswow, great!  Thanks philiKON_00:35
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dixond_hi all: what does "ImportError: module 'whatever' has no global 'blah'" actually *mean* when it spits out from a zcml file?13:46
zagydixond_: in the zml there must be a reference to whatever.blah13:48
dixond_zagy: yes, but whatever.blah is present in the python path, with both __init__.py and configure.zcml present....  So what can cause that error to get thrown?13:48
zagycircular import problem maybe?13:49
dixond_... How can I actually debug, or test to be certain of what has raised this?13:49
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dixond_*crickets*13:58
projekt01dixond, is there a package "blah" not whatever.blah? If you like to include whatever.blah you can use a dot prefix for relative module path e.g. ".blah"13:59
projekt01dixond_, ^^13:59
dixond_projekt01: lib/python/whatever/blah/__init__.py exists, as does lib/python/whatever/__init__.py.... I have a zcml directive <include package="whatever.blah" /> which throws the 'ImportError ... no global ... ' etc.14:00
projekt01is the zcml file located in the whatever package?14:01
dixond_GAH - found it. Useless third-party developers were doing tricks with __path__ in the __init__.py of the 'whatever' package.... *grinds teeth* stupidstupidstupid.14:01
projekt01;-)14:02
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zagygaah14:35
zagyzope.viewlet 3.4.1 is brownbag14:35
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SteveAZope uses Launchpad for bug tracking.  There are now feeds of bugs in Launchpad that you can use in your favourite feed readers / netvibes / blogs / project homepages or whatever.15:26
SteveASee https://help.launchpad.net/Feeds for more information about Launchpad Atom feeds.  Ask me if you need help with it or are interested in different feeds than are available.15:27
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SteveAI'd love to receive screenshots of feeds you find useful, in your favourite feed readers.15:27
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bigkevmcdSteveA: Does it allow authentication, for private bugs?15:28
SteveAno15:29
SteveAit's just for public stuff15:29
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