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| jodok | J1m: i remember you having a python script to replay logfiles - do you know by chance if it is somewhere in svn? | 00:46 |
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| fcorrea | hello there. Does anyone ever experienced problems with five:includeOverrides? I am trying to override the calendar view and instead of just overriding, it is raising a conflict | 05:17 |
| fcorrea | calendar view is an ordinary z3 view | 05:18 |
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| malthe | jukart: projekt01 mentioned that you probably knew a workaround for a bug observed on Mac OS with z3c.extfile; --- after about 30-35%, large downloads stall. | 11:39 |
| jukart | malthe: not that we know about | 11:40 |
| jukart | the only limit we have is our flsh upload which is limited to 100MB | 11:40 |
| jukart | flash | 11:40 |
| malthe | jukart: is there a tool that will reveal where the zope thread is stuck at? | 11:42 |
| afd__ | malthe: I've had some (similar) problems with slow uploads of big files - uploads that would take more then 30 minutes (the upload would never complete, with no traceback in zope, the link would just drop, even if it was through a simulated throttled link on localhost) | 11:45 |
| malthe | interesting | 11:45 |
| afd__ | malthe: yesterday I was looking at deadlockdebugger, I think it would be trivial to port it to zope3 | 11:45 |
| malthe | this file is only about 1 mb though | 11:45 |
| malthe | afd__: excellent | 11:46 |
| malthe | should we give it a go? | 11:46 |
| afd__ | it was on my todo list for the next couple of days | 11:46 |
| afd__ | but at this point I have more urgent stuff to do | 11:46 |
| malthe | ok | 11:46 |
| malthe | right | 11:47 |
| projekt01 | jukart, did not dobee had such a problem on his mac during z3c.extfile development? Or was that just a high memory load issue? | 11:47 |
| afd__ | malthe: ok, I'll set asside the other issues and we can work on it | 11:47 |
| afd__ | if you'd like | 11:47 |
| jukart | projekt01: not that I know about, can't ask him right now, he is back tomorrow | 11:48 |
| projekt01 | jukart, no problem | 11:48 |
| malthe | jukart: thanks | 11:49 |
| malthe | afd__: cool | 11:49 |
| malthe | seems the dumper code needs an update | 11:50 |
| afd__ | right | 11:50 |
| malthe | afd__: I'll set up a package and a view | 11:50 |
| afd__ | ok | 11:50 |
| malthe | z3c.deadlockdebugger/ | 11:50 |
| malthe | ? | 11:50 |
| afd__ | that was my idea too | 11:51 |
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| malthe | afd__: committed | 12:00 |
| afd__ | looking | 12:00 |
| malthe | there's nothing ;-) | 12:00 |
| afd__ | ok | 12:01 |
| afd__ | should we buildout now or later? | 12:01 |
| afd__ | also, unfortunately I don't have commiter rights | 12:02 |
| afd__ | :) | 12:02 |
| malthe | I just hook it up to an existing zope 3 project I have | 12:04 |
| afd__ | ok | 12:04 |
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| malthe | afd__: I'll have a prototype up soon | 12:19 |
| malthe | if the same technique works or semi-works. | 12:20 |
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| malthe | afd__: It's on the cheeseshop --- z3c.deadlockdebugger 0.1. | 12:29 |
| malthe | seems to work | 12:29 |
| afd__ | cool, I'll take a look | 12:29 |
| malthe | doesn't seem to be protected by permissions though, although I require zope.ManageApplication. | 12:29 |
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| malthe | afd__: the Zope 2 product would make sure that even though all threads were occupied, the dump_threads call would go through; to do this in Zope 3 would mean to go into the wsgi package and patch something. Probably not something we want to do. | 13:35 |
| malthe | perhaps people that need to always be able to dump threads should just increase the number of threads | 13:35 |
| afd__ | but then how do you reserve a thread just for this task? | 13:36 |
| afd__ | it would be possible to do that, I think | 13:36 |
| afd__ | messing with the treaddispatcher, I think | 13:36 |
| malthe | maybe | 13:37 |
| malthe | alternatively another wsgi server could be brought up by the package | 13:38 |
| malthe | on some predefined (perhaps configurable) port | 13:38 |
| afd__ | malthe: yesterday I found a sh script that would use the gdb to dump the same kind of stuff that deadlockdebugger outputs | 13:41 |
| afd__ | but I couldn't get it to work | 13:41 |
| malthe | interesting | 13:41 |
| malthe | jukart: for what it's worth, my process hangs in zope.app.twisted/twisted/web2.wsgi.py:239 | 13:42 |
| malthe | that's a threading.Event being asked to ``wait``. | 13:42 |
| afd__ | malthe: maybe you can switch with ZServer and try again | 13:44 |
| malthe | afd__: right, you mean instead of twisted? | 13:45 |
| afd__ | yes | 13:45 |
| malthe | I should try that | 13:45 |
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| malthe | afd__: not sure how I would reconfigure that though | 13:46 |
| afd__ | malthe: I think you need to change in runzope | 13:47 |
| afd__ | instead of | 13:47 |
| afd__ | from zope.app.twisted import main | 13:47 |
| afd__ | you put | 13:47 |
| afd__ | from zope.app.server import main | 13:47 |
| afd__ | from zope.app.server.main import main | 13:48 |
| malthe | sounds reasonable | 13:48 |
| malthe | I'll try it | 13:48 |
| afd__ | http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/FAQUserInterface | 13:48 |
| afd__ | #1 on that list | 13:48 |
| afd__ | you could maybe create two versions and look at the difs | 13:48 |
| malthe | I'd like to see a buildout configuration that uses ZServer | 13:53 |
| malthe | but you're right; it's important to determine that it's the wsgi server that's causing problems | 13:53 |
| afd__ | I think zserver is wsgi enabled too | 13:54 |
| afd__ | malthe: I was thinking that maybe, to dedicate a thread to debugging, you only need to set two http servers in zope config | 13:55 |
| afd__ | if the first server locks, you have the second server to look at the threads | 13:56 |
| malthe | that's it | 13:56 |
| malthe | good solution; it should be in the README | 13:56 |
| jukart | malthe: we don't use twisted | 13:56 |
| malthe | you ought to get commit-rights | 13:56 |
| malthe | jukart: can you send me a buildout.cfg? | 13:56 |
| malthe | or hint at how to set up the application without twisted | 13:57 |
| jukart | malthe: just put "server = zserver" in your app section | 13:58 |
| jukart | sorry "servers = zserver" | 13:58 |
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| malthe | jukart: simple :-) | 14:00 |
| jukart | batteries included :) | 14:00 |
| malthe | certainly has | 14:00 |
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| afd__ | malthe: http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1073504990 | 14:07 |
| afd__ | http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/use-gdb-to-get-backtraces-of-hung-spinning-sites | 14:07 |
| malthe | afd__: seems like a good solution | 14:07 |
| malthe | although z3c.deadlockdebugger is somewhat easier to use | 14:08 |
| malthe | (if it's able to get a thread) | 14:08 |
| afd__ | provided that the second http server idea works... | 14:08 |
| malthe | yep | 14:09 |
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| __mac__ | identify asdf | 14:42 |
| __mac__ | *g* | 14:42 |
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| harobed | ccomb: you are here ? | 16:59 |
| ccomb | harobed yes | 17:00 |
| afd_ | malthe: http://dpaste.com/35147/ | 17:07 |
| afd_ | the main thing is that the filename is fixed to find the proper request object | 17:07 |
| malthe | afd_: let me merge this in | 17:09 |
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| malthe | afd_: committed; but why did it work before actually? | 17:24 |
| afd_ | that fix only retrieves the proper request object, to show the urls for the threads and their query strings | 17:24 |
| harobed | ccomb: can you go to #zope3-fr ? | 17:25 |
| afd_ | the code digs into the frames and when it matches a frame whose filename starts matches the publisher, it looks for a request object | 17:25 |
| afd_ | delete "starts" from my previous sentence :) | 17:26 |
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| mgedmin | aw, projekt01 left already | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | srichter: we've been looking at z3c.breadcrumbs lately | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | it's perfectly suitable for something CMS-like, but our app has some weird requirements | 18:25 |
| mgedmin | we'd like some of our objects to have no breadcrumbs, and some to have more than one entry in the breadcrumb list | 18:26 |
| mgedmin | (we've many views on the same object that we'd like to organise into a logical hierarchy) | 18:26 |
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| mgedmin | I'm wondering whether to invent my own bicycle, or to look at extending z3c.breadcrumbs to support these kinds of use cases | 18:27 |
| * Theuni hands a bikeshed to mgedmin and two kinds of color | 18:29 | |
| mgedmin | ooh, shiny | 18:30 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: please feel free to add new features to the breadcrumb implementation | 18:32 |
| srichter | mgedmin: I welcome such feature improvements :-) | 18:33 |
| mgedmin | sure, but I'd like to discuss the design with other people who use z3c.breadcrumb | 18:33 |
| srichter | I think as long as we make a final release of the old version and start a new major version, it will be fine | 18:34 |
| srichter | I will look out for a discussion | 18:34 |
| srichter | but I am very busy these days | 18:34 |
| agroszer | hey Stephan | 18:34 |
| srichter | what's up? | 18:34 |
| mgedmin | srichter: what's the appropriate place for discussion? zope-dev@? | 18:42 |
| mgedmin | I assume IRC isn't the right channel to talk to people who are very busy | 18:42 |
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| mgedmin | faasen's not here either... | 18:48 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: I think zope-dev ML is best | 18:55 |
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| tarek | Hi J1m. I have a question about zc.recipe.testrunner. Is it possible, for eggs added in the recipe, to make sure that these eggs installs their console scripts into the bin. folder together woth the test script ? | 19:29 |
| tarek | my use case for instance, is to be able to add the "Paste" eggs in my test environment, and have the "paste" command in my bin folder | 19:30 |
| tarek | s/"paste" command/"paster" command | 19:32 |
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| hazmat | srichter, ping? | 19:49 |
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| srichter | hazmat: pong | 19:49 |
| hazmat | srichter, i've been looking at z3c.traversers.stackinfo i was curious if absolute_url adapters would work with stack consumption since their following parent pointers | 19:50 |
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| J1m | tarek, This is something the test setup code should do. | 20:04 |
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| jodok | philiKON: ping | 23:17 |
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| philiKON | jodok: pong | 23:24 |
| jodok | philiKON: do you have pypi permissions for zc.testbrowser? | 23:25 |
| philiKON | nope | 23:25 |
| jodok | benji: do you have permissions for it? | 23:26 |
| benji | I do. | 23:27 |
| jodok | benji: do you mind bumping the version to 1.0a2 | 23:27 |
| jodok | dobee made some minor changes and we would appreciate if there is an egg of it | 23:27 |
| benji | yep, I plan on reviewing those changes and making a release, it will probably be in the next 36 hours | 23:28 |
| jodok | benji: great. | 23:29 |
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| mgedmin | sometimes by clicking on a link and pressing the back button I end up with a timeout | 23:41 |
| mgedmin | firefox waits, zope is silent | 23:41 |
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| mgedmin | sound familiar? | 23:41 |
| mgedmin | well, this is an ancient zope 3.2 | 23:41 |
| mgedmin | when I say "timeout" I mean firefox keeps spinning its spinner and not showing anything | 23:45 |
| mgedmin | netstat shows no tcp connections whatsoever | 23:45 |
| mgedmin | hm, could be a bug in firefox or one of its connections | 23:45 |
| mgedmin | ^extensions | 23:45 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: you call that ancient? i just touched a zope 2.5.1 an hour ago *g | 23:46 |
| mgedmin | zope 2.x is not ancient, it's fossilized :) | 23:46 |
| mgedmin | hey, that firefox tab is completely nonresponsive -- I can't stop it, I can't load a different url... | 23:47 |
| mgedmin | definitely a firefox bug | 23:47 |
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| ignas | mgedmin: wget on the url | 23:54 |
| ignas | oh | 23:54 |
| ignas | back button | 23:54 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: i can definitely be happy that instance didn't crumble when I touched it ... | 23:55 |
| mgedmin | the one I touched did crumble :) | 23:56 |
| mgedmin | okay, midnight | 23:58 |
| mgedmin | where can one get lunch at midnight in vilnius? | 23:58 |
| philiKON | döner kebab? | 23:59 |
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