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| goschtl | philiKON: aroldo teaches us today oo in python for the uv-community-project :) | 11:40 |
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| philiKON | goschtl: nice | 11:41 |
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| jayaraj | Hi friends AFAIK the zeo architecture tend share same zodb, and utilizes local filesystem to use as cache. i would like to know wheather we can use separate zodb on each client... | 15:19 |
| benji | jayaraj: "separate zodb on each client"? | 15:19 |
| jayaraj | benji yea i want divide my database among zeo clients | 15:20 |
| benji | oh, you want to take a single database and devide it into seperate stand-alone databases? | 15:21 |
| jayaraj | yep | 15:21 |
| benji | you need to write a migration program that opens your existing database and populates each new DB with the appropriate content | 15:23 |
| benji | or, you could just copy your existing DB to each client and go from there | 15:23 |
| benji | I'm curious why you'd want to split up your DB like this though. | 15:24 |
| jayaraj | benji, hehehe i still in design phase... i am investigating the load balancing features provided by zope3 | 15:25 |
| jayaraj | is it possible to use multiple *.fs files for zodb rather than a single 'Data.fs'... | 15:25 |
| benji | yes, but you probably don't want to ;) | 15:26 |
| benji | if you're interested in loadbalancing, you'll probably be interested in http://benjiyork.com/blog/2008/03/icp-for-faster-web-apps.html | 15:27 |
| jayaraj | i doubt the stability of the filesystem when we use a huge single file... i feal its more convienent to use multiple files | 15:27 |
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| benji | I have data.fs files over 100GB. | 15:28 |
| jayaraj | benji: i ll be checking it | 15:28 |
| jayaraj | benji, ic | 15:28 |
| jayaraj | benji, still it performing well | 15:29 |
| benji | yep, single-file-ness isn't really an issue; but if you really don't want a single large file you can use DirectoryStorage, which creates lots of little files | 15:30 |
| jayaraj | ic | 15:30 |
| jayaraj | benji, and how about splitting up data over multiple servers? | 15:31 |
| malthe | I have an issue with the testbrowser not calling for a particular encoding, letting Zope to try an encode to iso-8859-1---which often will fail due to high unicode character output. | 15:31 |
| malthe | should the publisher not fall back then to UTF-8 | 15:31 |
| benji | jayaraj: you can connect to multiple DB servers | 15:32 |
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| benji | malthe: "calling for a particular encoding"? | 15:33 |
| malthe | benji: HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING | 15:33 |
| benji | you can add that header yourself | 15:34 |
| jayaraj | benji, thank you .... ttyl | 15:35 |
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| malthe | benji: yes---but in general, why insist on iso-8859-1 even if it fails? | 15:52 |
| malthe | besides, wouldn't I need to set this header at every browser request? | 15:53 |
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| benji | malthe: no idea; I'm a little surprised the publisher is using iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8 | 15:55 |
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| malthe | benji: no appearently that's what the RFC requires. | 15:55 |
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| malthe | * means free choice | 15:55 |
| malthe | but no specification means iso-8859-1 | 15:56 |
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| malthe | what's surprising is that this isn't an issue for anyone but me. | 15:56 |
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| malthe | Plone's UI, for instance, has \u2026 in the default output for an authenticated user. | 15:57 |
| malthe | hmm this is called HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET btw | 16:03 |
| malthe | benji: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143873 | 16:04 |
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| benji | that certainly seems related; perhaps you could provide the information needed to move forward on the bug (it seems to have stalled) | 16:06 |
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| jayaraj | benji, were can i get some resourse on zodb configuration in zope.conf | 16:20 |
| jayaraj | ^ | 16:21 |
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| benji | hmm, good question :) I don't know offhand | 16:27 |
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| malthe | benji: the fix is in that bug report; but I'd like to nail it with a test | 16:42 |
| benji | cool, +1 | 16:45 |
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| malthe | benji: fixed | 17:14 |
| malthe | i'll backport to 3.4 | 17:14 |
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| timte | malthe: you write it's only an issue for zope2 - does zope2 actually use zope.publisher, I thought it used ZPublisher? | 17:18 |
| malthe | timte: it's a proxy by now | 17:18 |
| malthe | much logic is deferred to zope.publisher. | 17:18 |
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| timte | oh | 17:19 |
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| mcdonc | malthe: do you understand under what circumstances the zope2 publisher defers to zope.publisher? i have not seen it. | 18:42 |
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| malthe | mcdonc: http.HTTPCharsets | 18:44 |
| malthe | so it's only half true | 18:46 |
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| mcdonc | pagetemplates and five seem to use that, but the publisher itself doesnt seem to | 18:49 |
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| malthe | mcdonc: right | 18:52 |
| malthe | so the integration is not exactly tight :-) | 18:52 |
| malthe | I wish it did defer more. | 18:53 |
| malthe | so I guess saying that ZPublisher is merely a proxy is an outright lie. | 18:53 |
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| malthe | well---they say people pull out about six or seven convenience lies from the hat a day. | 18:54 |
| mcdonc | heh... the z2 publisher is very brittle so it's probably not the right place to innovate, but if i understood the issue i could probably make repoze.zope2 defer properly if it made sense. | 18:54 |
| malthe | there's probably a lot of edge cases | 18:55 |
| mcdonc | yeah it looks like it depends on a z2 request 'feature' that would take some balls to remove ;-) | 18:58 |
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| malthe | :-) | 19:01 |
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| * mgedmin is going to learn what repoze is one of these days | 19:24 | |
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| mcdonc | mgedmin: it's essentially a) a way to run zope2 under arbitrary wsgi servers and b) an effort to move some of the features of zope2 into wsgi middleware | 19:26 |
| mgedmin | thanks | 19:26 |
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| mgedmin | the name sounds like it has something to do with repositories, which makes me think about revision control systems | 19:27 |
| mcdonc | well, we would have called it rezope, but the 2nd name in that was already taken | 19:27 |
| mcdonc | so we just switched the letters around | 19:27 |
| philiKON | hehe | 19:28 |
| mcdonc | we've branched out a little: it's now possible to run grok, trac, and django under the same stack so my above characterization isn't the whole story (it's just the easiest one to say ;-) ) | 19:29 |
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| mcdonc | philiKON: are you still pondering splitting up the z3 publisher? | 19:30 |
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| mgedmin | you scared him with that question :-) | 19:37 |
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| philiKON | mcdonc: back | 19:47 |
| philiKON | mcdonc: turns out i don't have that much time this week | 19:47 |
| philiKON | maybe later this month | 19:47 |
| mcdonc | philiKON: right... i did mention it to tres, and the meme then promptly disappeared into good-idea-land ;) | 19:48 |
| philiKON | ah, good-idea-land | 19:48 |
| philiKON | the country where communist works | 19:48 |
| mcdonc | paul vacations there sometimes | 19:49 |
| philiKON | s/communist/communism/ | 19:49 |
| philiKON | mcdonc: it's where I usually tend to lose lots of weight and become attractive | 19:50 |
| mcdonc | aw come on philipp you know we all think you're sexy... ;-) | 19:50 |
| philiKON | yes yes, and i can leave my hat on... | 19:51 |
| philiKON | anyway , gotta go | 19:51 |
| mcdonc | au jus | 19:51 |
| philiKON | one of these days i'll become a repoze contributor | 19:51 |
| mcdonc | philiKON: good-idea-land welcomes you! | 19:52 |
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| Theuni | mcdonc: when are you gonna arrive in chicago? | 20:44 |
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| mcdonc | Theuni: i'm getting there tomorrow afternoon... i'm at the doubletree... when you getting in? | 20:45 |
| Theuni | tomorrow noon | 20:45 |
| Theuni | i'm at the conference hotel | 20:45 |
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| mcdonc | Theuni: i'm at 540 429 2271... | 20:46 |
| Theuni | time for sight-seeing, tourism and beer i say | 20:46 |
| mcdonc | Theuni: i have to fit in "writing both talks" somewhere in there but otherwise, yp ;-) | 20:46 |
| Theuni | har har | 20:46 |
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| Theuni | humm | 20:47 |
| Theuni | where is that doubletree hotel? | 20:47 |
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| mcdonc | Theuni: i think it's only a couple blocks away from the conference hotel | 20:49 |
| Theuni | looks like it | 20:49 |
| Theuni | google says 158ft | 20:49 |
| mcdonc | through barbed wire and crossing a 8-lane highway | 20:49 |
| Theuni | oh. 187 actually | 20:49 |
| Theuni | that 8-lane highway is easy. | 20:49 |
| mcdonc | you should be used to that | 20:49 |
| * Theuni shuts up | 20:50 | |
| Theuni | enough honking next to my head for a lifetime | 20:50 |
| mcdonc | haha | 20:50 |
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| mcdonc | Theuni: I get in to chicago around 4pm... i'll likely need to work on my talk until about 8 or so.. then need to be back at the hotel around midnight to do some work with mike naberezny on the other thing... but 8-12, whatcha doin? | 21:16 |
| mcdonc | sleeping probably | 21:16 |
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| FFighter | hello! | 21:36 |
| FFighter | I'm having issues with proper character encoding with zope.formlib. The following schema http://www.pastebin.ca/940111 has its fields/widgets incorrectly rendered in the HTML. The "Instruções linha 1" string, for ex, is rendered as "Instruções linha 1" - any ideas on how I could solve it? | 21:38 |
| FFighter | I really need a hand here! :) | 21:39 |
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| Theuni | mcdonc: sounds good for dinner and little beer | 22:19 |
| mcdonc | very good | 22:19 |
| Theuni | i'm probably gonna be in the town to do some site-seeing over the day | 22:19 |
| Theuni | so we could meet up downtown | 22:19 |
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| mcdonc | Theuni: sounds good... does it cost much to text message? | 22:52 |
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| Theuni | mcdonc: depends on the amount of kinkyness in the message :P | 23:22 |
| mcdonc | rawr | 23:22 |
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| philiKON | mcdonc: that just cost $5 :) | 23:57 |
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