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| mintsauce | im using a buildout based zope instance - how would i call the bin/debugzope command? (working through PVW's book) | 13:40 | 
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| zagy | mintsauce: bin/zopectl debug | 13:48 | 
| zagy | or bin/something, depending on your setup | 13:48 | 
| flox | mintsauce: or you should have a bin/youproject-debug | 13:48 | 
| flox | i guess | 13:48 | 
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| mintsauce | hi all, im running through PVW's book | 17:25 | 
| mintsauce | im trying to create an object via the debug prompt | 17:26 | 
| mintsauce | using ./bin/instance debug | 17:26 | 
| mintsauce | however, each time i enter a line, say: "from worldcookery.recipe import Recipe" the prompt just quits out, no error, nothing ... | 17:27 | 
| mintsauce | oddly, if i mistype the name on purpose, it gives a proper error, so it looks like things are working ..... but the book doesnt show the prompt quitting as it is | 17:27 | 
| mintsauce | help! | 17:27 | 
| mgedmin | whoa | 17:28 | 
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| mintsauce | any ideas? | 17:32 | 
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| kobold | where can I find a good example about how to use local utilities? | 17:43 | 
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| srichter | is there somewhere a short how-to on how to get started with Zope 3 on Windows? I need to build a couple of binary releases | 17:44 | 
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| mgedmin | mintsauce: what if you tried try: from worldcookery.recipe import Recipe; except SystemExit: print "waah" ? | 17:48 | 
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| mintsauce | mgedmin: quits out silently in just the same way | 17:52 | 
| mintsauce | interestingly if i 'import urllib' it stays in the prompt as it should | 17:53 | 
| mgedmin | import worldcookery? import worldcookery.recipe? | 17:54 | 
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| mgedmin | what OS are you on? | 17:54 | 
| mgedmin | this sounds like a bug in one of the extension modules, perhaps? | 17:54 | 
| mintsauce | OSX | 17:59 | 
| mintsauce | import worldcookery works | 18:00 | 
| mintsauce | import worldcookery.recipe doesnt | 18:01 | 
| mintsauce | hmmm | 18:01 | 
| mintsauce | so my app is registered but the class isn't? | 18:01 | 
| mintsauce | (bear in mind im only on the 4th chapter of the book!) | 18:01 | 
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| mgedmin | mhm, you could try asking on the zope3-users@zope.org mailing list | 18:14 | 
| mgedmin | I don't have OS X handy | 18:14 | 
| mgedmin | or at all | 18:14 | 
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| mintsauce | mgedmin: ill give 'em a try | 18:29 | 
| mintsauce | thanks | 18:29 | 
| mgedmin | it does sound like a python problem (interpreter incompatible with extension modules, or some bug) | 18:30 | 
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| Pan_ | bah. why im getting this: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u0119' in position 13: ordinal not in range(128) | 20:20 | 
| Pan_ | when im using utf-8 in @action? | 20:20 | 
| mgedmin | you're supposed to use unicode strings | 20:20 | 
| mgedmin | if I understand your problem correctly | 20:21 | 
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| mgedmin | @action(u"Something") | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | yep. | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | and im using it like that | 20:21 | 
| mgedmin | and if you want literal non-ASCII chars, don't forget the # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- at the top of the file | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | and even i have header at the beginng of my file: | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | yes | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | i have it | 20:21 | 
| mgedmin | and you're getting the error? | 20:21 | 
| Pan_ | # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- | 20:22 | 
| mgedmin | okay, then maybe you also need to pass a name='lalala' to the action decorator | 20:22 | 
| Pan_ | @action(u"Zamknij aukcjê") | 20:22 | 
| mgedmin | it is trying to build an ASCII-only ID for the HTML element | 20:22 | 
| Pan_ | ok. how to do that? | 20:22 | 
| Pan_ | @action(u"Zamknij aukcjê", name="my utf8 string")? | 20:22 | 
| Pan_ | correct? | 20:22 | 
| mgedmin | first, file a bug in the zope 3 bug tracker at http://launchpad.net/zope3/+bugs | 20:22 | 
| mgedmin | then do what you said, except with name="my_nonutf8_id" | 20:24 | 
| Pan_ | hah! working! | 20:24 | 
| Pan_ | mgedmin thanks :) | 20:25 | 
| mgedmin | the usual convention is to use the i18n machinery with English defaults | 20:25 | 
| mgedmin | so you'd have @action(_("Close auction")) or something | 20:25 | 
| mgedmin | with the non-ASCII translation substituted later, while rendering the page | 20:25 | 
| mgedmin | that's why nobody noticed this bug, I think | 20:25 | 
| Pan_ | yes, i think you are right. im doing somethings fast, so i dont always use zope machinery. | 20:26 | 
| Pan_ | like locales. | 20:26 | 
| Pan_ | i know that not good idea, but i dont have to much time to end it. | 20:26 | 
| Pan_ | thanks again ;) | 20:27 | 
| Pan_ | oh, perhaps you know, how to turn on accesslog in zope3? | 20:28 | 
| Pan_ | do i have to use zope3recipe? | 20:28 | 
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| mgedmin | I used to know... | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | IIRC there was a setting in zope.conf, around zope 3.2 times | 20:40 | 
| mgedmin | no idea how it's done now, in the brave new buildout and eggified world | 20:41 | 
| philiKON_ | accesslog in the wsgi setup isn't supported | 20:42 | 
| philiKON_ | but you can use Paste#translogger | 20:42 | 
| Pan_ | what is Paste#translogger? | 20:43 | 
| philiKON_ | a wsgi middleware | 20:43 | 
| philiKON_ | that provides an accesslog | 20:43 | 
| philiKON_ | http://pythonpaste.org/modules/translogger.html | 20:43 | 
| philiKON_ | you can easily plug it in in your deploy.ini file | 20:43 | 
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| Pan_ | great! its like accesslog? | 20:44 | 
| Pan_ | mgedmin: rite, i was using accesslog setting in zope.conf, but as philiKON_ said, its not longer supported. | 20:44 | 
| Pan_ | Middleware for logging requests, using Apache combined log format | 20:45 | 
| Pan_ | great! :) | 20:45 | 
| Pan_ | any quick tip how to install it ;) ? | 20:45 | 
| philiKON_ | jsu plug Paste#translogger as a middleware into your deploy.ini | 20:46 | 
| philiKON_ | you can read about it on http://pythonpaste.org/deploy/ | 20:46 | 
| Pan_ | ok. great. thanks philiKON_, its big help for me. | 20:47 | 
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