| radix | Oh, I just found the bug about that. https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/98482 | 00:00 |
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| mcdonc | does anyone know where (if) in z3 the support for form elements like "foo:int" and "bar:record" live? | 00:50 |
| mcdonc | n/m zope.publisher.browser | 00:51 |
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| mulc_ | Can a browser:page directive be replicated by a ( persistent ) object registered in a local site manager? | 06:52 |
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| malthe | mulc_: sure, a local adapter. | 10:27 |
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| Subdino | hi. I think I identified a problem with shutdown sequence: if a worker thread is processing a transaction at shutdown time and it lasts more than 3 seconds (1 second per shutdown phase with zopectl stop), then it will get killed. But nothing prevents it from being in, say, tpc_finish at the time it gets killed, meaning storages can be left in an inconsistent state. | 12:09 |
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| Subdino | mmh, I guess I should reiterate my discovery | 14:35 |
| Subdino | hi. I think I identified a problem with shutdown sequence: if a worker thread is processing a transaction at shutdown time and it lasts more than 3 seconds (1 second per shutdown phase with zopectl stop), then it will get killed. But nothing prevents it from being in, say, tpc_finish at the time it gets killed, meaning storages can be left in an inconsistent state. | 14:35 |
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| __mac__ | Subdino: please write this discovery in a mail to the zope-dev-mailinglist | 14:39 |
| Subdino | ok | 14:46 |
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| Subdino | __mac__: mail sent | 16:03 |
| __mac__ | Subdino: nice | 16:04 |
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| Subdino | __mac__: say that again (...or not) after reading it ;) | 16:05 |
| __mac__ | k | 16:05 |
| Subdino | I'm afraid my formulation is not so clear... | 16:05 |
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| Subdino | on a loosely related topic, I'm trying to modify ClockServer to handle shutdown events, but I can't find how to do that syncrhonously | 16:10 |
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| jayaraj_ | hi friends, can any one tell me how easy/difficult it is to get nginx infront of zope3? | 17:05 |
| afd___ | jayaraj_: I'm not using nginx, but there's a buildout recipe with it, it probably has integration options | 17:07 |
| afd___ | you could check that, for inspiration | 17:07 |
| jayaraj_ | afd___, i heard it delivers good performance! and much better than apache! even Lovely is quite impressed i think :) | 17:13 |
| afd___ | yes, I've heard | 17:13 |
| jayaraj_ | actually i am trying to take away the load of upload/download processing from zope3 into another server... so i had a look at Tramline an apache module! its concept is good but it do upload with out asking zope3 application! so i am chacking arround for another solution! | 17:16 |
| mcdonc | jayaraj_: have you tried using zodb blobs? they improve the download/storage speed of large files a good bit. | 17:20 |
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| jayaraj_ | but chances are there that we cant use ZODB even! | 17:23 |
| jayaraj_ | mcdonc, ^ | 17:24 |
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| jayaraj_ | mcdonc, i never tried zodb blobs... let me have a look at it! | 17:26 |
| mcdonc | jayaraj_: are you using a custom z3 publication? you're not using zodb? | 17:27 |
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| jayaraj_ | mcdoc, we are not yet decided.... will need to double check it. we are still evaluating our options! | 17:30 |
| mcdonc | well, if you haven't made the decision yet, the default for z3 is "use zodb" so in some sense it has already been made for you | 17:32 |
| jayaraj_ | mcdonc, thats right. and we are running prototypes on zodb itself. | 17:35 |
| mcdonc | ah. well, then, i suspect zodb would work fine for what you want (although you might choose not to use it for whatever reason) | 17:37 |
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| jayaraj_ | mcdonc, we will know about it after we finsh with the evaluation! | 17:40 |
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| mcdonc | ftr, i wrote most of the code for a website that acts as "online file backup" using zodb and an older version of the blob code, that site is in production (http://websafe.com), so i know some formulation of zodb+blobs is capable of handling high "write pressure" under load. | 17:43 |
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| jayaraj_ | hmm that could be a valuable note! how does it show on traffic monitors? | 17:45 |
| mcdonc | the customer hasn't set any up yet (to my annoyance) | 17:46 |
| mcdonc | but it's currently holding about a TB of data | 17:47 |
| mcdonc | and multiple automated backup runs of thousands of files happen all the time | 17:47 |
| jayaraj_ | oh! ic then how many users it has now? | 17:47 |
| mcdonc | hundreds (not thousands) | 17:48 |
| malthe | mcdonc: thanks -re- z3c.pt | 17:49 |
| mcdonc | malthe: oh, sure, thank you! you did a great job... | 17:49 |
| malthe | 500 req/s is not too shabby at all | 17:49 |
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| mcdonc | heh... well, it's *kinda* running.. or at least will be running on repoze.org now | 17:50 |
| malthe | we can also thank Hanno Schlichting for the recent additional performance increase from 10x to 15x | 17:50 |
| mcdonc | hanno is a speed freak ;-) | 17:50 |
| malthe | yep | 17:50 |
| malthe | I think it was mostly accomplished by introducing a new stream buffer class. | 17:50 |
| malthe | no longer pure python though | 17:51 |
| mcdonc | malthe... ftr, i've "baked in" z3c.pt" to (working title) "repoze.bfg", which is a very simple web framework based on z3+wsgi stuff. | 17:52 |
| mcdonc | http://svn.repoze.org/repoze.bfg/trunk/repoze/bfg/metaconfigure.py drives e.g. http://svn.repoze.org/repoze.bfg/trunk/repoze/bfg/sampleapp/configure.zcml | 17:52 |
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| malthe | cool | 17:53 |
| malthe | not bad at all | 17:53 |
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| Subdino | __mac__: did you had the time to read my zope-dev mail ? | 18:12 |
| mcdonc | Subdino: the 2nd issue (zdaemon/zdrun) can be solved by not using zdaemon.. you could instead use "runzope" (is there a "runzope" in z3? or are we talking about z2?) under an external process controller | 18:16 |
| mcdonc | when you say "write blocking shutdown methods", what exactly needs to change? | 18:19 |
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