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mcdonc | does anyone here use zope.app.catalog? | 09:11 |
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afd_ | I do... but I'd like to be able to use it without any zope.app.* stuff | 09:11 |
mcdonc | afd_: it works for you? you use fieldindexes and such? | 09:13 |
afd_ | yes | 09:13 |
afd_ | for more flexible indexes, add zc.catalog | 09:13 |
mcdonc | huh... it appears to be very not-working in the case where both a keyword index and a field index return results | 09:13 |
mcdonc | (the multiunion "weightedIntersection" thingy barfs because it can't union IFSets and IISets together) | 09:14 |
mcdonc | do you use keyword indexes? | 09:15 |
afd_ | let me think | 09:15 |
afd_ | I use SetIndex from zc.catalog... I think it can replace keyword index | 09:16 |
mcdonc | ic | 09:16 |
mcdonc | thank you | 09:16 |
afd_ | np | 09:16 |
mcdonc | as far as wanting to use the catalog outside zope.app stuff, that's also what i'm trying to do | 09:17 |
mcdonc | http://svn.repoze.org/repoze.catalog/trunk/ | 09:17 |
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afd_ | I'm working on a desktop app that uses ZODB as persistance, and I'm using a lot of zope's components (orderable containers, copypastemove), it would be cool if buildout wouldn't pull all the zope.app.* eggs. But in the end it's just mentality... egss being there it doesn't hurt with anything | 09:19 |
mcdonc | i guess | 09:20 |
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nyo | The zope.app.file package registers the "zope.AddImages" permission that is never used anywhere (neither in zope.app.file, nor other packages). The only thing where it can be seen is zope.app.authentication doctest where it appears as "one of permissions listed in the browser interface". I wonder why was it created? Is this some kind of leftover from Zope2? Can it be deprecated/removed now? | 11:25 |
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mintsauce | Trying to give gocept registration a go - but getting the following error when trying to view it's included html pages. Is this a missing component? Or something i've set-up wrong? | 17:30 |
mintsauce | ComponentLookupError: ((<zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.RegistrationPageletForm object at 0x2a80290>, <zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest instance URL=http://127.0.0.1:8080/register.html>, <zope.app.folder.folder.Folder object at 0x22498b0>), <InterfaceClass z3c.form.interfaces.IWidgets>, u'') | 17:30 |
afd_ | mintsauce: I'd check if the z3c.form zcml files are loaded | 17:30 |
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mintsauce | afd_: they are included in my buildout, which runs with no errors - what's the best way of testing they are actually 'there' ? | 17:31 |
afd_ | make sure your site.zcml gets to load the zcml files from z3c.form | 17:32 |
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afd_ | if your buildout builds site.zcml, check that file' | 17:32 |
afd_ | if you're building it manually, check that it includes a reference to the z3c.form zcml files | 17:33 |
afd_ | if it has a reference to a package-includes folder, make sure there are stub files for z3c.form | 17:33 |
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mintsauce_ | afd_: yup, its there <include package="z3c.form" file="meta.zcml" /> followed by <include package="z3c.form" /> | 17:35 |
afd_ | then I'm not sure... I don't have any experience with z3c.form, perhaps one of its authors can help you | 17:36 |
mintsauce_ | afd_: ok, thanks anyway - gonna give a prodding via pdb to check imports are working. | 17:37 |
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malthe | does anyone remember which module implements the path traversal functionality of Zope TALES? | 17:48 |
malthe | in particular the security proxying | 17:49 |
andres | malthe: I dont see the direct connection between path traversal and security proxying? | 17:50 |
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malthe | andres: right that was a bit cryptic; let me elaborate | 17:51 |
malthe | right so this doesn't really have to do with path traversal, but rather the fact that sometimes Zope TAL needs to insert security-proxied objects | 17:51 |
malthe | I'm looking for the code that gets the __str__ of a proxied object | 17:52 |
malthe | I find that it's unproxied before insertion | 17:52 |
andres | malthe: it should be the same as the one gettint the __str__ of an unproxied object? I think I am still misunderstanding you. | 17:53 |
malthe | andres: if I invoke __str__ on a zope.security.proxy.ProxyFactory'ed object, I get '<security proxied __builtin__.CallableValue instance at 0x2bb0af0>' | 17:54 |
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andres | Yes, as it should be? | 17:57 |
malthe | andres: but it should be possible to do tal:content="some_proxied_value" and get the unproxied __str__, shouldn't it? | 17:57 |
malthe | (if we are permitted to call __str__) | 17:58 |
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andres | malthe: tal:content normally converts to a string? | 18:06 |
malthe | andres: from the example I'm looking at, it seems so, yes. | 18:07 |
projekt01 | malthe, andres, or unicode? | 18:07 |
malthe | consider an int, too. | 18:07 |
andres | projekt01: unicode. | 18:07 |
malthe | it's converted to a string | 18:07 |
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andres | malthe: conversion to a string is the only sensible thing it can do? | 18:08 |
andres | projekt01: actually I really try not to use str at all | 18:08 |
projekt01 | I see | 18:09 |
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malthe | andres: but it's proxied | 18:11 |
andres | malthe: wheres the problem with that? | 18:12 |
malthe | seems zope.tales coerces to unicode | 18:13 |
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malthe | andres: okay so what happened is that ``zope.app.pagetemplate`` seems to use the untrusted path adapter by default (which doesn't proxy), whereas z3c.pt would always proxy | 18:22 |
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projekt01 | malthe, can this proxy path adapter get overriden? | 18:35 |
projekt01 | malthe, does the performance testing use the proxy adapter too? or is for testing no security configured? | 18:36 |
malthe | projekt01: the benchmark that uses path-expressions did use proxying | 18:36 |
projekt01 | Ok, cool | 18:37 |
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andres | Is there any way to go if I want a zope to surive after a zope.rdb connection is closed because the server has gone down? | 22:21 |
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andres | The connection cant even do it transparently to the outside because in most cases the ZopeDatabaseAdapter has the connection information and not the actual Database connection... | 22:24 |
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