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agroszerJ1m, hey00:24
agroszerJ1m, do you remember where is the pure python implementation of persistent?00:25
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J1magroszer, from the recent sprint?00:28
J1mThere have been others.00:28
agroszeryep00:29
agroszerFreiburg00:29
J1mI'd expect there to be a branch.00:29
J1mLemme look....00:29
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J1mI don't see one.00:30
agroszer:-/00:30
J1mI suggest asking Laurence Rowe.00:30
J1mMaybe he didn't check it in yet.00:31
J1mOr maybe he put it somewhere we wouldn't have expected him to.00:31
agroszerthanks anyway00:31
J1mYou aren't going to ask him?00:31
agroszerI will00:31
J1mLet me know what you find out. :)00:32
agroszerI need to figure some contact with him00:32
agroszersure00:32
J1mI just sent you his email as a private message00:33
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agroszerJ1m, ping01:13
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MebibyteHello everyone.02:05
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yotaffanyone use sqlalchemy with zope forms ,14:04
yotaff?14:04
srichterno, but I did a demo on how to hook up z3c.form with SQL data14:05
yotaffHi stephan14:07
srichterhello14:08
yotaffinteresting14:08
yotaffbecause we have some difficulties to use a SA content like a first class Zope content (w schema, z3c.forms)14:09
srichtermmh, can you be more specific?14:09
srichterbtw, the worst that can happen is that you have to write a custom data manager for SA objects14:09
yotaffnow, we use plain sqlalchemy objects. We haven't interfaces or schema14:12
srichterah ok14:13
yotaffobviously it works14:13
pyqweryotaff: I do that, too. And it works for me.14:13
yotaffwe investigate to add schemas, for constraint14:14
yotafftype verification14:14
pyqwerBut you need to have autoflush enabled.14:14
jayarajhi, i have been trying z3c.dav... everythin works fine with zope.app.dav package... then i installed z3c.dav and included the package in my zope3 instance... everything runs fine... but when i try to connect through webDAV i get 'cannot open "/" ' error message! can any one help me on this?14:14
pyqwer(Otherwise, updates fail)14:14
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jayarajhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/85591/ this is the error i see in my explorer14:14
srichteryou could write a special field.Fields implementation that accepts the SA field definitions and converts them to schema fields14:14
srichterwe do something like that in our project as well14:15
yotaffhmm, understood. But I am amazed that no integrated solution exist14:18
srichterwell, I would love to see a contribution14:19
srichterWe are just not using SA14:19
yotaffI know, not a criticism, just a report14:19
srichterI know, I took it as such14:19
srichterI still think such a contribution would be very cool14:20
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jayarajdo anybody have a HOWTO for using z3c.dav package?14:29
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srichterjayaraj: other than the docs in the related packages, probably not14:30
srichteryou might want to contact michael kerrin14:30
jayarajsritcher, should i do anything ather than including the package to get it working?14:31
srichterI have no idea14:31
jayarajic...14:32
jayarajsrichter, do you have kerrin's nick?14:33
srichtermkerrin14:34
jayarajah... thanks..14:34
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pyqwerDoes someone know how to include overrides.zcml with my buildout system?18:08
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pyqwerBy default, default seems to ignore it. And if I put into my [app] something like "<include package="mypackage" file="overrides.zcml" />" then it's treated like a normal file and leads to tracebacks (duplicate definitions).18:09
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junkafarianpyqwer: <includeOverrides....?18:22
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pyqwerjunkafarian: Yes, just found it, but doesn't seem to work. Where would I put that? in [app] site.zcml=... I assume?18:24
junkafarianyup18:25
junkafarianthats where i have my link anyway18:25
pyqwerjunkafarian: Hmmm, the <includeOverrides ...> is not ignored (if I specify an unknown package here, the instance throws an error), but it does not load the file (I put garbage in it, and the instance can nevertheless start up.).18:27
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junkafarianhave you included the package before the overrides?18:28
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pyqwerjunkafarian: Ah, ok, found it - it was not "enough" garbage in the file, I did not know that I can put arbitrary characters outside of the XML-Tags.18:31
pyqwerjunkafarian: Seems to work now, thanks.18:31
junkafarianno worries18:33
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MebibyteHi all :)21:38
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CSWookieMebibyte: Hi.21:43
MebibyteHow's the Zope code? :)21:44
whitzopey?21:44
Mebibytenice adjective :)21:45
MebibyteCan I do a question?21:46
MebibyteI would be interested in knowing about the future of Zope.21:46
MebibyteJust wondering if a Zope 4 that would exist would be compatible with Zope 3...21:46
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timteMebibyte: i don't think there are any plans for zope 4 yet21:56
MebibyteI suppose, but just in case :)21:57
MebibyteZope is a cool thing...21:57
MebibyteIMHO more complete than the rest hehehehe :)21:57
timteMebibyte: nobody knows anything about zope 4 so noone can tell if it's going to be compatible  :)21:57
Mebibyteaha21:58
Mebibyte:)21:58
timteMebibyte: maybe there will never be a 4, who knows  :)21:58
timtemaybe there will be a 3.99999921:59
MebibyteHehehehe Why?21:59
Mebibyteor a 3.14? :)21:59
Mebibyteoh21:59
Mebibytenow it's 3.421:59
* Mebibyte silly hehehe21:59
timtewell, 3.14 comes after 3.421:59
timte14 > 422:00
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Mebibytehehee timte :)22:06
Mebibyteand 3.1416?22:06
Mebibyte:)22:06
Mebibytebut well... timte Zope is difficult but nice :)22:09
harobed:)22:10
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timteand 1416 > 14  :)22:26
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