IRC log of #zope3-dev for Tuesday, 2008-09-30

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cr3should the trunk be able to run under python2.5? the bins still seem to refer to python2.400:23
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andrescr3: we run it in production without problems for at least half a year.00:32
andresAlthough a relatively narrow subset00:32
cr3andres: interesting, should I co branches/3.4 or trunk?00:32
andrescr3: We use it with released eggs, so 3.4 shoulb be ok.00:35
andrescr3: i know that I am not the only one running 2.500:35
andrescr3: I think there was some issues with restricted pythons security not really double-checked for 2.5 - but we dont use it.00:36
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cr3andres: when is 3.4 expected to be released?01:07
andrescr3: hm. There are 3.4 egg releases - I dont know if there is a real release to be expected soonish.01:08
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andrescr3: I would really suggest working egg based - anything else seems to have no future.01:08
cr3andres: thanks for all the info, I should be good to go for a while :)01:16
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andresAnybody has an idea how that could have happened during git svn fetch: http://rafb.net/p/dVSrVN56.html02:58
andres"error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename /home/andres/git/public/crystal.git/objects/96: File exists" seems to be quite strange.02:58
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andresSorry, wrong channgel.03:01
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markusleistTach zusammen10:49
markusleistsorry, wrong channel10:50
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philiKONtoutpt: it seems your copy of mechanize is faulty13:39
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philiKONtoutpt: you could try and pin it to an older version that's known to work13:39
philiKONalso, if you're evalutating zope3, may i suggest http://grok.zope.org ?13:40
philiKONit takes a lot of the getting-to-go pain away13:40
toutptphiliKON: i will try it for sure13:40
toutpti don't know mechanize13:41
philiKONit's one of the many dependencies13:41
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toutpti need also to evaluate wsgi and zope+wsgi ... may its better to develop wsgi middle ware ?13:43
philiKONbetter than what?13:44
philiKONwsgi is indeed a great tool13:44
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philiKONwsgi middlewares can be very useful13:44
toutptbetter because it make the application independant from any python web framework, isn't it ?13:45
philiKONyou seem to be confusing things a bit13:45
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philiKONa wsgi middleware is not the application13:46
philiKONthe application is still the application, written with some form of framework13:46
philiKONa middleware is just something that you plug between the app and the server13:46
philiKONthat enhances the app in some way13:46
philiKON(e.g. single-sign-on authentication across multiple apps, caching, sessioning, etc.)13:46
toutptyes sorry i m a bit confused with all that terms, i m a plone third application developper13:47
toutptok a bit more clear13:47
toutptso a forum can not be a wsgi middleware ?13:47
philiKONno a forum is a web app13:47
philiKONbut you can have, say, a forum app and a wiki app13:48
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philiKONand combine them to a larger app using a middleware13:48
philiKONand the forum app and the wiki app could be written using entirely different frameworks13:49
toutptby doing a kind of glue between them throw wsgi pipeline ?13:49
philiKONby using the paste#urlmap middleware for instance13:49
philiKONso you map urls like /forum/* to the forum app13:50
philiKONand urls like /wiki/* to the wiki app13:50
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toutptwell ! thx you philiKON !13:52
toutptthe worse is i have read some docs about wsgi ... may that was not enough clear13:54
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mintsauceNeed some help deciphering a traceback ...16:23
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "ComponentLookupError" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/6765816:24
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mintsauceWhich component is the one that's missing? What direction should I read the error message in?16:26
afd___mintsauce: maybe some z3c.form > z3c.pagelet integration16:27
Charlie_XLooks like you didn't supply a name for the component16:28
mintsauceok ... will take a look16:28
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mintsauceCharlie_X: where would I supply the name?17:16
afd___mintsauce: maybe it would be helpful to give more details about what you're trying to do, what you were doing when you got the error, some details about your environment...17:17
mintsauceafd___: I'm trying to use gocept.registration in my application, which from what I can tell, requires z3c.pagelet etc. I've copied the relevant zcml settings to my buildout, setup.py and configure.zcml - the application starts, but wehen i try to view a gocept registration page I get the error I paste-binned earlier.17:21
Charlie_XWhen you do the component lookup you get an error17:21
Charlie_XThe error you get is because the named adapter can't be found, I think. That's the u"" in the error you're getting17:22
afd___mintsauce: try to set your skin as default skin, if you have one17:22
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mintsauceafd___: same error17:25
afd___mintsauce: http://svn.zope.org/gocept.registration/trunk/src/gocept/registration/demo/__init__.py?rev=84662&view=markup17:27
afd___if you look here, there's a layer defined17:27
afd___which inherits from several z3c.form and z3c.pagelet layers17:27
afd___you need to set your skin layer to inherit them as well17:27
afd___also, check this file: http://svn.zope.org/gocept.registration/trunk/src/gocept/registration/demo/application.zcml?rev=84662&view=markup17:28
mintsauceI had all of that, but im missing the interface / layout stuff in application.zcml - will see what difference that makes17:30
mintsauceThe interface name="RegistrationDemo" could be changed to my skin?17:31
mintsaucescrub that - i do have those lines (I was looking in wrong zcml), but the name is set as RegistrationDemo - so im assuming this cant help when my skin is looking for it?17:33
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afd___mintsauce: you either set your skin to inherit the registration demo layer, or make your skin layer similar to registration demo17:43
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afd___mintsauce: any progress?18:16
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mintsauceafd___: nope, moved it to my skin layer, but still getting identical error.18:18
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afd___mintsauce: I think you should read the code of the demo and the registration package18:18
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afd___from what I have seen, the registration itself doesn't depend on z3c.form or pagelet18:19
afd___you could write those forms yourself18:19
afd___so then you could replace the demo pacakge18:19
mintsauceafd___: yup, that's what im doing - im pretty sure its just a zcml error/typo somewhere (as always!)18:19
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mintsauceafd___: got it working :)18:55
afd___mintsauce: how?18:55
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mintsaucemintsauce: didn't have the z3c stuff in my skin layer, as you suggested - just took a while to get my head round it, been away from zope for a couple of weeks ;)18:57
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afd___ok :) It helps to understand how the layer mechanism works in z3, as it is used as discriminator in many instances, such as pagelet and browser resources registration18:58
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mintsauceafd___: Yeah, I can appreciate that - thanks for your pointers19:06
afd___np19:06
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