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| mgedmin | imho directlyProvides ought to be deprecated and renamed to directlyProvidesOnly | 01:53 |
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| mgedmin | people tend use it when they should use alsoProvides instead | 01:53 |
| strichter | mgedmin: that's probably a good idea that nobody heard :-) | 01:54 |
| mgedmin | it just occurred to me | 01:54 |
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| nyo | Is there a widget for z3c.form to select principals (like one used in zope.app.securitypolicy's @@grant.html view)? | 10:04 |
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| mintsauce | Hi all, trying a simple zope3 view template, but keep getting a traversal error: | 16:46 |
| lisppaste6 | mintsauce pasted "simpletest" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/68559 | 16:46 |
| mintsauce | Any ideas? I can't see where I'm going wrong... | 16:46 |
| srichter | sure | 16:47 |
| srichter | item is None | 16:47 |
| srichter | detail() does not return anything | 16:47 |
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| mintsauce | ahh | 16:51 |
| mintsauce | i thought just setting it to self would return it. | 16:51 |
| mintsauce | i know i can say return.test_value, but how would i do multiple values? | 16:52 |
| bigkevmcd | best way is to return a dict | 16:56 |
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| mintsauce | bigkevmcd: ok. but for arguments sake, is there a way to return multiple values? | 16:57 |
| bigkevmcd | return a tuple? | 16:58 |
| bigkevmcd | navigating a dict is easier tho' | 16:58 |
| mintsauce | bigkevmcd: hehe, k, point taken | 16:59 |
| bigkevmcd | mintsauce: It's a Python syntax question | 17:00 |
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| pyqwer | Hi, I just did a bin/buildout and now I get this when trying to startup my Zope3 site: ImportError: No module named back35 | 17:09 |
| pyqwer | Any clues why? | 17:09 |
| ktwilight | back35 doesn't exist? | 17:11 |
| pyqwer | ktwilight: Yes, seems so. | 17:11 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: importchecker sometimes helps with things like this. | 17:12 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: What's "importchecker" and how do I use it? | 17:12 |
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| mintsauce | Stick this in your buildout: | 17:13 |
| mintsauce | [checker] | 17:13 |
| mintsauce | recipe = lovely.recipe:importchecker | 17:13 |
| mintsauce | path = src/myproject | 17:13 |
| mintsauce | then you can run bin/checker | 17:14 |
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| mintsauce | make sure you call checker at the top of the buildout | 17:14 |
| mintsauce | It lists all your unused packages, installed packages etc - might not solve your problem directly, but useful all the same | 17:14 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Hmmm, interesting. Thanks. However, "back35" is referenced in zope.app.form.browser.metaconfigure.py, not in my src. | 17:14 |
| pyqwer | Shouldn't this be fetched automatically by zc.zope3recipes:app? | 17:15 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: quick search of pypi bought this back: | 17:15 |
| mintsauce | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.app.publisher/3.5.1 | 17:15 |
| mintsauce | 'Removed usage of deprecated LayerField from zope.app.component.back35.' | 17:16 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Yep, that's what's missing. | 17:16 |
| pyqwer | At least, the traceback says: | 17:17 |
| pyqwer | File "/home/dusty/prog/bsp/buildout/eggs/zope.app.form-3.6.2-py2.4.egg/zope/app/form/browser/metadirectives.py", line 26, in ? | 17:17 |
| pyqwer | from zope.app.component.back35 import LayerField | 17:17 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Perhaps I should delete all my eggs and do a fresh buildout? | 17:18 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: possibly - fraid you're at the limits of my limited buildout-foo ;) | 17:18 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: ;-) Many thanks, anyway! | 17:19 |
| * pyqwer doing a fresh buildout... | 17:19 | |
| mintsauce | But the fact that it's deprecated does sound like a package might be calling it when there is an alternative / its not there | 17:19 |
| mintsauce | np | 17:19 |
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| ktwilight | pyqwer, you could delete all your .cache and .pyc and fire it up again | 17:24 |
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| pyqwer | ktwilight: Hmmm, I doubt that would help, as "back35" is really missing and the import is in an .py file... | 17:27 |
| pyqwer | ktwilight: But *perhaps* there's a new version of zope.app.form where this import is removed... | 17:28 |
| ktwilight | pyqwer, ah, i thought you found back35 but it couldn't recognise it | 17:29 |
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| pyqwer | mintsauce, ktwilight: Oh my, did a fresh install, back35 is still missing... Maybe there's an error in the dependencies... | 17:33 |
| ktwilight | did you do the find+grep jitsu? | 17:34 |
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| pyqwer | ktwilight: Just did it - Oh, my, oh my, everything is broken - back35 seems to have been removed and dozens of other packages are referencing it... | 17:37 |
| pyqwer | The buildout system can be soooo frustrating!!! | 17:40 |
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| mintsauce | pyqwer: definitely a love/hate thing. | 17:55 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: That's true. | 17:55 |
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| philiKON | J1m: ping | 18:15 |
| J1m | pong | 18:16 |
| philiKON | hey | 18:16 |
| J1m | Hi | 18:16 |
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| philiKON | i noticed some checkins to the ZODB 3.8 branch haven't been merged to the trunk yet | 18:16 |
| philiKON | is that intended in any way? | 18:16 |
| J1m | No, just haven't gotten to it yet. | 18:16 |
| philiKON | ok | 18:16 |
| philiKON | so right now i should take the 3.8 branch if i want the development "head" theN? | 18:17 |
| pyqwer | philiKON: Hi, as you are the "buildout specialist", maybe you will be able to help me: I just did a "bin/buildout" of my application and it seems that things are broken due to an upgrade of zope.app.component. | 18:18 |
| pyqwer | Any clue what to do? | 18:18 |
| mintsauce | I've manage to lock myself out of a site folder in my zope site, fiddling with PAU's - i can login to root/++etc++site, but the faulty PAU stops me getting into /root/sitefolder/++etc++site .... halp! | 18:18 |
| J1m | philiKON, no | 18:18 |
| J1m | 3.8 just has bug fixes. | 18:18 |
| J1m | and I don't think there's much that hasn't been merged yet. | 18:18 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: What about a "debugzope" session and removing the faulty PAU? | 18:18 |
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| J1m | In fact, all I can think of atm are some test changes. | 18:19 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: bin/instance debug ? | 18:19 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Yep. | 18:19 |
| J1m | I think all of the substantive changes I made have been merged. | 18:19 |
| philiKON | J1m: ok. well i picked some random checkins to the 3.8 branch and tried to spot the changes on the trunk | 18:19 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Don't forget to commit! | 18:19 |
| J1m | like what? | 18:19 |
| philiKON | J1m: and i couldn't find them | 18:19 |
| philiKON | hang on | 18:19 |
| philiKON | r91853 | 18:20 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: i wouldnt know where to start, only used debug for python debugging | 18:20 |
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| pyqwer | mintsauce: Very easy: You get at a debug prompt, then you have the "root" object available. | 18:20 |
| pyqwer | Just locate the site manager and delete the PAU. | 18:20 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: locate how? :D | 18:21 |
| * sm loves zopectl debug | 18:21 | |
| J1m | philiKON, right, that one hasn't been merged. | 18:21 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Hmmm, wild guess: root.getSiteManager() | 18:21 |
| J1m | again, there are just a few last minute test changes that havent' been ported yet. | 18:21 |
| philiKON | J1m: ok | 18:21 |
| philiKON | J1m: just wondering | 18:22 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: good guess | 18:22 |
| J1m | at least for my changes. | 18:22 |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: how do i then 'list' the contents? | 18:22 |
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| pyqwer | mintsauce: Well, it's just Python: list(root.getSiteManager()) :-) | 18:22 |
| philiKON | J1m: yeah, it looks like only r91814-91853 haven't been merged | 18:23 |
| philiKON | anyway, thanks | 18:23 |
| * mintsauce slaps forehead | 18:23 | |
| mintsauce | pyqwer: then how do i work down the 'tree'? | 18:24 |
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| pyqwer | mintsauce: I doubt you need to, the PAU should be directly in the site manager, I assume. However, you can just do things like root['mycontainer']['mysubcontainer'] etc. | 18:25 |
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| mintsauce | pyqwer: pau is one level down, in a site folder | 18:26 |
| pyqwer | ok. | 18:26 |
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| mintsauce | pyqwer: ok, found the PluggableAuthentication folder, so how do i delete it? | 18:29 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: well, "del myfolder['pau']" or something like that. | 18:30 |
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| mintsauce | ask a simple question ...... | 18:30 |
| mintsauce | ;) | 18:31 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: It's just Python objects. | 18:31 |
| * mintsauce penny drops | 18:31 | |
| pyqwer | And if it's gone, don't forget to do the following: "from transaction import commit; commit()" | 18:31 |
| mintsauce | What does that do? | 18:32 |
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| bigkevmcd | guess... | 18:34 |
| mintsauce | commits it, i know, but why doesnt the change happen 'live'? | 18:34 |
| bigkevmcd | it does happen live | 18:34 |
| bigkevmcd | try accessing myfolder['pau'] after you remove it | 18:35 |
| bigkevmcd | then, exit Zope, and start again, and try accessing it | 18:35 |
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| pyqwer | Hmmm, not really, because when you do a "instance debug" the instance is in debug mode and is not accessible from the outside. | 18:35 |
| pyqwer | But, yes, the change is visible when you end your debug session and start the instance. | 18:36 |
| bigkevmcd | pyqwer: only that connection, it's transaction isolation | 18:36 |
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| mintsauce | hmmm ... how do i address the site management folder in the delete statement - del root.myfolder['PluggableAuthentication'] doesnt work | 18:40 |
| * mintsauce came to python via zope, not zope via python - does it show? :P | 18:41 | |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Hmmm, in your site (wherever it is), I'd do something like that: sm=mysite.getSiteManager(); del sm['PluggableAuthentication'] | 18:42 |
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| mintsauce | pyqwer: great thanks for that, had a frustrating day with Zope - this has thrown some light on a lot of it :) | 19:01 |
| pyqwer | mintsauce: Great to hear! Well, my frustrating buildout experience is still not over... | 19:01 |
| * mintsauce feels your pain ;) | 19:02 | |
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| pyqwer | srichter: ping | 19:27 |
| srichter | pong | 19:27 |
| pyqwer | Thanks for your email reply. I think I already used kgs. At least, I had something in [buildout] like: extends = http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c2.cfg | 19:28 |
| srichter | but you also need: versions=versions | 19:29 |
| srichter | otherwise it would not use these versions | 19:29 |
| pyqwer | Hmmm, I don't really get it: At http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/intro.html it reads "either [buildout] versions = versions [version] ... / or: [buildout] extends=... | 19:30 |
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| pyqwer | srichter: Can you perhaps provide me a sample buildout.cfg that uses the KGS? | 19:32 |
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| srichter | pyqwer: I think the link should ctain examples at the bottom | 19:38 |
| pyqwer | srichter: Yes, that would be great, as I just don't understand it. | 19:38 |
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| pyqwer | Btw., I tried with extends = http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c2.cfg and versions = versions and now buildout uses setuptools 0.6c7, which are incompatible to my SVN 1.5 on my machine. | 19:39 |
| pyqwer | Is there a way to override certain package versions? | 19:39 |
| srichter | you are right | 19:41 |
| srichter | I am missing the versions=versions | 19:42 |
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| pyqwer | srichter: And what I still don't get is what the links for the versions above mean: "Controlled Packages, Buildout Configuration ..." | 19:43 |
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| srichter | [buildout] | 19:46 |
| srichter | extends = versions-3.4.0c6.cfg | 19:46 |
| srichter | versions = versions | 19:46 |
| srichter | [versions] | 19:46 |
| srichter | lxml = 2.1.2 | 19:46 |
| pyqwer | srichter: [versions] or [version]? (On http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/intro.html it reads [version]) | 19:47 |
| srichter | I pasted the right thing | 19:47 |
| srichter | it came from our config files | 19:47 |
| srichter | so another small bug in the intro | 19:48 |
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| pyqwer | srichter: ok, I added "setuptools = 0.7a1dev-r66388" and now it fetches the packages... | 19:49 |
| srichter | just switvch to the latest RC | 19:50 |
| srichter | http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c7.cfg | 19:50 |
| pyqwer | srichter: Ok, thanks. | 19:50 |
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| fRiSi | srichter: hi! | 22:19 |
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