IRC log of #zope3-dev for Wednesday, 2008-10-15

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mgedminimho directlyProvides ought to be deprecated and renamed to directlyProvidesOnly01:53
mgedminpeople tend use it when they should use alsoProvides instead01:53
strichtermgedmin: that's probably a good idea that nobody heard :-)01:54
mgedmin it just occurred to me01:54
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nyoIs there a widget for z3c.form to select principals (like one used in zope.app.securitypolicy's @@grant.html view)?10:04
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mintsauceHi all, trying a simple zope3 view template, but keep getting a traversal error:16:46
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "simpletest" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/6855916:46
mintsauceAny ideas? I can't see where I'm going wrong...16:46
srichtersure16:47
srichteritem is None16:47
srichterdetail() does not return anything16:47
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mintsauceahh16:51
mintsaucei thought just setting it to self would return it.16:51
mintsaucei know i can say return.test_value, but how would i do multiple values?16:52
bigkevmcdbest way is to return a dict16:56
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mintsaucebigkevmcd: ok. but for arguments sake, is there a way to return multiple values?16:57
bigkevmcdreturn a tuple?16:58
bigkevmcdnavigating a dict is easier tho'16:58
mintsaucebigkevmcd: hehe, k, point taken16:59
bigkevmcdmintsauce: It's a Python syntax question17:00
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pyqwerHi, I just did a bin/buildout and now I get this when trying to startup my Zope3 site: ImportError: No module named back3517:09
pyqwerAny clues why?17:09
ktwilightback35 doesn't exist?17:11
pyqwerktwilight: Yes, seems so.17:11
mintsaucepyqwer: importchecker sometimes helps with things like this.17:12
pyqwermintsauce: What's "importchecker" and how do I use it?17:12
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mintsauceStick this in your buildout:17:13
mintsauce[checker]17:13
mintsaucerecipe = lovely.recipe:importchecker17:13
mintsaucepath = src/myproject17:13
mintsaucethen you can run bin/checker17:14
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mintsaucemake sure you call checker at the top of the buildout17:14
mintsauceIt lists all your unused packages, installed packages etc - might not solve your problem directly, but useful all the same17:14
pyqwermintsauce: Hmmm, interesting. Thanks. However, "back35" is referenced in zope.app.form.browser.metaconfigure.py, not in my src.17:14
pyqwerShouldn't this be fetched automatically by zc.zope3recipes:app?17:15
mintsaucepyqwer: quick search of pypi bought this back:17:15
mintsaucehttp://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.app.publisher/3.5.117:15
mintsauce'Removed usage of deprecated LayerField from zope.app.component.back35.'17:16
pyqwermintsauce: Yep, that's what's missing.17:16
pyqwerAt least, the traceback says:17:17
pyqwerFile "/home/dusty/prog/bsp/buildout/eggs/zope.app.form-3.6.2-py2.4.egg/zope/app/form/browser/metadirectives.py", line 26, in ?17:17
pyqwer    from zope.app.component.back35 import LayerField17:17
pyqwermintsauce: Perhaps I should delete all my eggs and do a fresh buildout?17:18
mintsaucepyqwer: possibly - fraid you're at the limits of my limited buildout-foo ;)17:18
pyqwermintsauce: ;-) Many thanks, anyway!17:19
* pyqwer doing a fresh buildout...17:19
mintsauceBut the fact that it's deprecated does sound like a package might be calling it when there is an alternative / its not there17:19
mintsaucenp17:19
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ktwilightpyqwer, you could delete all your .cache and .pyc and fire it up again17:24
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pyqwerktwilight: Hmmm, I doubt that would help, as "back35" is really missing and the import is in an .py file...17:27
pyqwerktwilight: But *perhaps* there's a new version of zope.app.form where this import is removed...17:28
ktwilightpyqwer, ah, i thought you found back35 but it couldn't recognise it17:29
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pyqwermintsauce, ktwilight: Oh my, did a fresh install, back35 is still missing... Maybe there's an error in the dependencies...17:33
ktwilightdid you do the find+grep jitsu?17:34
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pyqwerktwilight: Just did it - Oh, my, oh my, everything is broken - back35 seems to have been removed and dozens of other packages are referencing it...17:37
pyqwerThe buildout system can be soooo frustrating!!!17:40
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mintsaucepyqwer: definitely a love/hate thing.17:55
pyqwermintsauce: That's true.17:55
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philiKONJ1m: ping18:15
J1mpong18:16
philiKONhey18:16
J1mHi18:16
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philiKONi noticed some checkins to the ZODB 3.8 branch haven't been merged to the trunk yet18:16
philiKONis that intended in any way?18:16
J1mNo, just haven't gotten to it yet.18:16
philiKONok18:16
philiKONso right now i should take the 3.8 branch if i want the development "head" theN?18:17
pyqwerphiliKON: Hi, as you are the "buildout specialist", maybe you will be able to help me: I just did a "bin/buildout" of my application and it seems that things are broken due to an upgrade of zope.app.component.18:18
pyqwerAny clue what to do?18:18
mintsauceI've manage to lock myself out of a site folder in my zope site, fiddling with PAU's - i can login to root/++etc++site, but the faulty PAU stops me getting into /root/sitefolder/++etc++site .... halp!18:18
J1mphiliKON, no18:18
J1m3.8 just has bug fixes.18:18
J1mand I don't think there's much that hasn't been merged yet.18:18
pyqwermintsauce: What about a "debugzope" session and removing the faulty PAU?18:18
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J1mIn fact, all I can think of atm are some test changes.18:19
mintsaucepyqwer: bin/instance debug ?18:19
pyqwermintsauce: Yep.18:19
J1mI think all of the substantive changes I made have been merged.18:19
philiKONJ1m: ok. well i picked some random checkins to the 3.8 branch and tried to spot the changes on the trunk18:19
pyqwermintsauce: Don't forget to commit!18:19
J1mlike what?18:19
philiKONJ1m: and i couldn't find them18:19
philiKONhang on18:19
philiKONr9185318:20
mintsaucepyqwer: i wouldnt know where to start, only used debug for python debugging18:20
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pyqwermintsauce: Very easy: You get at a debug prompt, then you have the "root" object available.18:20
pyqwerJust locate the site manager and delete the PAU.18:20
mintsaucepyqwer: locate how? :D18:21
* sm loves zopectl debug18:21
J1mphiliKON, right, that one hasn't been merged.18:21
pyqwermintsauce: Hmmm, wild guess: root.getSiteManager()18:21
J1magain, there are just a few last minute test changes that havent' been ported yet.18:21
philiKONJ1m: ok18:21
philiKONJ1m: just wondering18:22
mintsaucepyqwer: good guess18:22
J1mat least for my changes.18:22
mintsaucepyqwer: how do i then 'list' the contents?18:22
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pyqwermintsauce: Well, it's just Python: list(root.getSiteManager()) :-)18:22
philiKONJ1m: yeah, it looks like only r91814-91853 haven't been merged18:23
philiKONanyway, thanks18:23
* mintsauce slaps forehead18:23
mintsaucepyqwer: then how do i work down the 'tree'?18:24
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pyqwermintsauce: I doubt you need to, the PAU should be directly in the site manager, I assume. However, you can just do things like root['mycontainer']['mysubcontainer'] etc.18:25
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mintsaucepyqwer: pau is one level down, in a site folder18:26
pyqwerok.18:26
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mintsaucepyqwer: ok, found the PluggableAuthentication folder, so how do i delete it?18:29
pyqwermintsauce: well, "del myfolder['pau']" or something like that.18:30
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mintsauceask a simple question ......18:30
mintsauce;)18:31
pyqwermintsauce: It's just Python objects.18:31
* mintsauce penny drops18:31
pyqwerAnd if it's gone, don't forget to do the following: "from transaction import commit; commit()"18:31
mintsauceWhat does that do?18:32
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bigkevmcdguess...18:34
mintsaucecommits it, i know, but why doesnt the change happen 'live'?18:34
bigkevmcdit does happen live18:34
bigkevmcdtry accessing myfolder['pau'] after you remove it18:35
bigkevmcdthen, exit Zope, and start again, and try accessing it18:35
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pyqwerHmmm, not really, because when you do a "instance debug" the instance is in debug mode and is not accessible from the outside.18:35
pyqwerBut, yes, the change is visible when you end your debug session and start the instance.18:36
bigkevmcdpyqwer: only that connection, it's transaction isolation18:36
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mintsaucehmmm ... how do i address the site management folder in the delete statement - del root.myfolder['PluggableAuthentication'] doesnt work18:40
* mintsauce came to python via zope, not zope via python - does it show? :P18:41
pyqwermintsauce: Hmmm, in your site (wherever it is), I'd do something like that: sm=mysite.getSiteManager(); del sm['PluggableAuthentication']18:42
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mintsaucepyqwer: great thanks for that, had a frustrating day with Zope - this has thrown some light on a lot of it :)19:01
pyqwermintsauce: Great to hear! Well, my frustrating buildout experience is still not over...19:01
* mintsauce feels your pain ;)19:02
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pyqwersrichter: ping19:27
srichterpong19:27
pyqwerThanks for your email reply. I think I already used kgs. At least, I had something in [buildout] like: extends = http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c2.cfg19:28
srichterbut you also need: versions=versions19:29
srichterotherwise it would not use these versions19:29
pyqwerHmmm, I don't really get it: At http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/intro.html it reads "either [buildout] versions = versions [version] ... / or: [buildout] extends=...19:30
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pyqwersrichter: Can you perhaps provide me a sample buildout.cfg that uses the KGS?19:32
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srichterpyqwer: I think the link should ctain examples at the bottom19:38
pyqwersrichter: Yes, that would be great, as I just don't understand it.19:38
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pyqwerBtw., I tried with extends = http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c2.cfg and versions = versions and now buildout uses setuptools 0.6c7, which are incompatible to my SVN 1.5 on my machine.19:39
pyqwerIs there a way to override certain package versions?19:39
srichteryou are right19:41
srichterI am missing the versions=versions19:42
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pyqwersrichter: And what I still don't get is what the links for the versions above mean: "Controlled Packages, Buildout Configuration ..."19:43
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srichter[buildout]19:46
srichterextends = versions-3.4.0c6.cfg19:46
srichterversions = versions19:46
srichter[versions]19:46
srichterlxml = 2.1.219:46
pyqwersrichter: [versions] or [version]? (On http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/intro.html it reads [version])19:47
srichterI pasted the right thing19:47
srichterit came from our config files19:47
srichterso another small bug in the intro19:48
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pyqwersrichter: ok, I added "setuptools = 0.7a1dev-r66388" and now it fetches the packages...19:49
srichterjust switvch to the latest RC19:50
srichterhttp://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions-3.4.0c7.cfg19:50
pyqwersrichter: Ok, thanks.19:50
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fRiSisrichter: hi!22:19
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