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| projekt01 | any hints about the repos state? | 03:26 |
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| projekt01 | seems that some packages are gone because of failing revisions | 03:28 |
| projekt01 | Error * Can't open file '/svn/repos/main/db/revs/70320': No such file or directory | 03:28 |
| projekt01 | for: | 03:28 |
| projekt01 | svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.decorator/tags/3.4.0/src/zope/decorator | 03:29 |
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| malthe | what's up with svn commit | 12:47 |
| Theuni | the svn machine seems to be still broken | 12:54 |
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| Theuni | as always, the us are just getting up at this point | 12:54 |
| malthe | darn | 13:03 |
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| benji_ | Theuni and malthe: when I get in the office (and the people that know show up), I'll find out what's going on and report | 13:58 |
| malthe | great | 13:59 |
| benji_ | in the mean time I have to get 1 of 3 up and off to school ;) | 13:59 |
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| benji | for those following along at home, svn.zope.org is being worked on | 16:00 |
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| zagy | geee, the which-topic-is-right-for-context in zope.app.onlinehelp is... well... at least strange | 16:10 |
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| J1m | zagy, is theune around? | 16:17 |
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| J1m | zagy, is Theune around? | 16:17 |
| zagy | he's at a customer but might react | 16:17 |
| philiKON | Theuni: J1m wants you :) | 16:17 |
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| J1m | zagy, can you or someone else there get me a copy of your svn mirror? | 16:18 |
| zagy | J1m: jens has access to the machine (I don't) | 16:18 |
| * mgedmin has an svn mirror but it has only ~300 kbit/s uplink according to speedtest.net | 16:20 | |
| J1m | whimper | 16:21 |
| mgedmin | if you only needed svn dumps for a few specific revisions, I could help | 16:21 |
| J1m | I don't know enough about the internal structire of the repo or how to restore selected revisions. | 16:21 |
| J1m | Is that possible? | 16:21 |
| mgedmin | I think so, but you have to do that incrementally AFAIU | 16:22 |
| mgedmin | I.e. restore revs 1-2000 from one dump, then 2001-2005 from another, etc. | 16:22 |
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| J1m | so we can't restore specific revisions when we have later ones? | 16:23 |
| mgedmin | I don't think so | 16:23 |
| mgedmin | you'd need to create an empty repo (with the same UUID so as not to break people's checkouts), then dump and load stuff into it | 16:23 |
| mgedmin | maybe svn gurus could find a better way | 16:24 |
| mgedmin | I'm not a guru | 16:24 |
| J1m | me neither | 16:24 |
| J1m | I think it would probably be easies to get a copy of a mirror. | 16:25 |
| Theuni | J1m: here | 16:25 |
| Theuni | i have access to that data | 16:26 |
| Theuni | and we have sufficient bandwith | 16:26 |
| J1m | zagy, by jens, did you mean Jens Vagelpohl? | 16:26 |
| mgedmin | yay saved! | 16:26 |
| J1m | indeed | 16:26 |
| Theuni | i'll tar up the svn dir and get you an http url? | 16:27 |
| J1m | scp it to your home dir on svn.zope.org | 16:28 |
| zagy | what would we do without the dzug ;) | 16:28 |
| philiKON | couldn't jim just do an svn mirror of svn.zope.de ? | 16:28 |
| Theuni | ah | 16:28 |
| Theuni | good idea | 16:28 |
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| mgedmin | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.reposadmin.maint.html#svn.reposadmin.maint.replication tells you how | 16:28 |
| mgedmin | but it's not very fast | 16:28 |
| Theuni | i'll scp it | 16:28 |
| philiKON | yeah would proably be faster | 16:29 |
| Theuni | J1m: i think we'd be happy to mirror you off on all the moveable data on that machine in general. | 16:30 |
| J1m | well, the only think other than svn is cvs, the kgs and the pypi mirror. | 16:31 |
| philiKON | KGS can be regenerated. pypi mirror can be done locally as well. anybody still using CVS? | 16:32 |
| J1m | I don't think anyone is writing to cvs anymore. | 16:32 |
| J1m | we didn't move everything to svn. | 16:32 |
| philiKON | hmm true | 16:33 |
| J1m | so it is still used for reading. | 16:33 |
| J1m | I think I made a copy a while ago. I should double check that. | 16:33 |
| J1m | Of course, we should ahve backups of everything, but in the last system failure in April, the svn backup jobs in cron got commented out and were never uncommented. :( | 16:34 |
| J1m | s/ahve/have | 16:34 |
| Theuni | J1m: i'm on my way. this will take a while to move. | 16:35 |
| J1m | yup | 16:36 |
| Theuni | the machine is relatively busy | 16:36 |
| Theuni | (ours) | 16:36 |
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| J1m | wrt mirroring, I think we're going to set up an internal mirror. | 16:43 |
| J1m | If we had that, we'd be in better shape, | 16:44 |
| Theuni | luckily for svn, mirroring is really easy | 16:44 |
| J1m | we'd load balence the web sites and the repo read access. | 16:44 |
| mintsauce | When declaring a field in an interface, is it possible to set it as 'hidden' - so that forms don't display fields to edit it? | 16:44 |
| J1m | mintsauce, no. YOu should do that in your form definition. | 16:45 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: this is not the schema's concern | 16:45 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: what J1m says. | 16:45 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: e.g. form_fields = Fields(IFoo).omit('bar') | 16:45 |
| J1m | and you should not create an interface just to drive a form. | 16:45 |
| J1m | Schemas are elegent, but I wonder if they were a net win. | 16:46 |
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| mintsauce | all good advice, thanks | 16:47 |
| mintsauce | j1m - coming from a plone background, schemas were instantly familiar - in a warm fuzzy way ;) | 16:47 |
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| rocky | is something up with svn://svn.zope.org ? | 17:07 |
| philiKON | yup, machine failure | 17:07 |
| philiKON | they're restoring right now | 17:07 |
| rocky | gotcha | 17:09 |
| mintsauce | when setting up a field index, should the interface chosen be that of the interface containing the field you want to index? | 17:11 |
| philiKON | of course | 17:12 |
| rocky | on aside, i just released ClueBzrServer which is a very minimalistic auth-configurable bzr http server | 17:13 |
| mintsauce | philiKON: ditto the field i guess? | 17:13 |
| jhauser | which is very cool to have rocky :-) | 17:13 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: huh? | 17:14 |
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| philiKON | mintsauce: if you have IFoo with a 'bar' field and you'd like all objects that provide IFoo or are adaptable to IFoo to have their 'bar' attribute indexed, configure your index for IFoo and 'bar' | 17:15 |
| philiKON | mintsauce: i suggest reading the chapter on the catalog | 17:15 |
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| mintsauce | philiKON: i have - but it's mainly on text indexing - which is slightly different - just checking my assumptions were correct :) | 17:15 |
| rocky | jhauser: have you tried it or are you just trying to be sarcastic? :) | 17:16 |
| philiKON | textindex is just different in how you can query it | 17:16 |
| philiKON | all catalog indices are attribute-based indexes | 17:16 |
| jhauser | not yet, but I needed something like this, to host internal sources behind an nginx proxy | 17:17 |
| jhauser | and I didn't want to setup a wsgi/apache config just for that | 17:17 |
| jhauser | rocky: so nowhere I'm sarcastic | 17:18 |
| rocky | oh cool :) | 17:18 |
| rocky | i'm considering integrating loggerhead too but i haven't decided yet | 17:18 |
| rocky | the auth configuration is done via repoze.who | 17:18 |
| * rocky loves it that the bzr http smart server is just a wsgi app | 17:18 | |
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| rocky | hm, taking a while for svn.zope.org to come back | 17:21 |
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| mgedmin | Theuni: what's the % for that scp? | 17:21 |
| J1m | rocky, it's going to take a while. | 17:22 |
| rocky | oh :/ | 17:22 |
| benji | Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords. | 17:22 |
| J1m | our backup process failed, so we have to get a backup from Theuni's mirror. | 17:22 |
| rocky | gotcha | 17:25 |
| rocky | J1m: any discussions on moving zope svn to a newer vcs like hg or git or bzr ? | 17:25 |
| J1m | no | 17:25 |
| J1m | feel free to bring it up on zope-dev. | 17:25 |
| J1m | if we used bzr, then I think launchpad would host it for us. | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | preferably after having a converted repository for demos | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | ;) | 17:26 |
| rocky | ;) | 17:27 |
| * rocky 's preference is with bzr these days but he likes them all alot better than svn | 17:28 | |
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| mgedmin | rocky: what's the largest project you use bzr for, and how long do you have to wait for the initial checkout? | 17:29 |
| rocky | mgedmin: i don't manage any projects with bzr atm ... i mean i use bzr to checkout and work on various projects from launchpad and i've been using bzr-svn for quite some time | 17:29 |
| rocky | i'm not going to be the one to push bzr ;) | 17:29 |
| rocky | i was just curious | 17:29 |
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| * mgedmin had very high hopes for bzr and is disillusioned now | 17:30 | |
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| rocky | lol | 17:31 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: same here | 17:31 |
| rocky | mgedmin: if you're interested in that info i suggest you browse launchpad for a big project and try working with it :) | 17:31 |
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| mgedmin | I've become disillusioned precisely because I tried to use bzr | 17:32 |
| rocky | oh | 17:32 |
| rocky | how so? | 17:32 |
| mgedmin | several times, each time after believing claims that all previous (performance and reliability) problems have been fixed | 17:32 |
| benji | If anyone is deeply interested in shephearding a change of VCS, they should pay attention to the related discussion on python-dev (proto-PEP at http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dg7fctr4_40dvjkdg64) | 17:32 |
| bigkevmcd | mgedmin: Launchpad itself recently became self-hosted (through bzr) | 17:33 |
| mgedmin | they cheat by having in-house bzr developers to provide support ;-) | 17:34 |
| rocky | lol | 17:34 |
| rocky | bzr is very nice to manage from an admin perspective tho, i will say that | 17:34 |
| bigkevmcd | yip...very little to do :-) | 17:34 |
| Theuni | I find bzr (and distributed VCS) extremely annoying regarding revision numbers | 17:34 |
| rocky | mgedmin: have you tried out the python bzr mirror ? | 17:35 |
| Theuni | rocky, bigkevmcd: no it isn't | 17:35 |
| Theuni | it's a hell of a job | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | no | 17:35 |
| rocky | Theuni: huh? | 17:35 |
| bigkevmcd | Theuni: huh? | 17:35 |
| Theuni | how do you do mailing lists? | 17:35 |
| Theuni | user/group-based access to repositories? | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | launchpad does mailing lists for bzr commits | 17:35 |
| Theuni | aside from launchpad | 17:35 |
| Theuni | if you can't use bzr without launchpad, it's worthless imho | 17:35 |
| bigkevmcd | Theuni: post_commit = bzrlib.plugins.bzrcommitmessage.send_commit | 17:36 |
| rocky | Theuni: huh? that's not an admin-for-bzr issue... that's a supporting-apps-for-bzr issue | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | I was only mentioning that as an example that there's a working plugin | 17:36 |
| bigkevmcd | we don't host on Launchpad, yet... | 17:36 |
| Theuni | rocky: with svn i have a few (3-4) repositories that need this tweaking each hosting a bazillion of projects | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | though I'm not sure if it works with merges... | 17:36 |
| rocky | bzr doesn't try to solve those issues | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | or was that pushes? | 17:36 |
| rocky | Theuni: yeah but svn core doesn't solve those problems, you use supporting apps to solve those problems on svn | 17:37 |
| Theuni | if i understand bzr corretly i have to set this property on each project as each project needs a new repository | 17:37 |
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| Theuni | rocky: no, but svn doesn't make it extra hard | 17:37 |
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| rocky | each project does not need it's own repo ... but that does seem the preferred way of managing it yes | 17:37 |
| rocky | Theuni: you can do one bzr repo for your bazillion projects if you want | 17:37 |
| bigkevmcd | you can created a shared repository, if you like | 17:37 |
| Theuni | rocky: which means that each project always mixes up the history of all other projects | 17:37 |
| rocky | bzr init-repo myrepo; cd myrepo; bzr init --create-prefix MyProject/trunk | 17:38 |
| rocky | Theuni: lol yeah, but that's what svn does anyways | 17:38 |
| Theuni | svn is very happy to let you slice through it on the hierarchy | 17:38 |
| Theuni | AFAIU bzr always works repository-wide | 17:38 |
| rocky | huh/ | 17:38 |
| rocky | ? | 17:38 |
| Theuni | I can simply go ahead and ask for 'svn log svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ZODB3/trunk/' | 17:40 |
| Theuni | And I can get a checkout of that one dir, without pulling in everything else. | 17:40 |
| Theuni | AFAIU bzr always operates on the repository-level for those operations | 17:40 |
| bigkevmcd | Theuni: I'm guessing you've not used bzr | 17:41 |
| Theuni | I tried using it for a good while. | 17:41 |
| Theuni | Also, the revision number thing is really annoying. | 17:41 |
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| Theuni | I wish I could be using bzr, but after what happened while we tried using it (and after svn grew merge tracking) I'm really not that excited anymore. | 17:43 |
| rocky | well, all dcvs systems seem to have issue with the rev number thing, but i agree it's annoying | 17:44 |
| CSWookie | I used bzr for a while. I'm fairly sure that we didn't use it as intended though, because we didn't get much more benefit off of it than we would have from knowing what we were doing regarding branches. | 17:44 |
| rocky | you can't treat bzr as a svn subsitute ... that's one big lesson i've learned recently | 17:45 |
| Theuni | CSWookie: That's what my feeling was initially too. | 17:45 |
| Theuni | However, the answer that I got was "use launchpad" but that's not an option for me. | 17:45 |
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| Theuni | CSWookie: for us, simple tasks like checking in would go into huge steps of 'commit', 'merge', 'push' ... | 17:46 |
| Theuni | and the eventuall pull in between | 17:46 |
| bigkevmcd | were you using a local bound branch? | 17:46 |
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| rocky | yep, that's using bzr as a svn substitute | 17:46 |
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| bigkevmcd | we maintain a branch of trunk locally, which is bound to a branch we agree is our trunk | 17:46 |
| rocky | well sort of | 17:47 |
| bigkevmcd | we then branch off all sorts of branches for fixes, features etc | 17:47 |
| bigkevmcd | and then, they get merged to trunk | 17:47 |
| Theuni | anyway. subversion has a dead simple workflow. bzr can't even agree on one. | 17:47 |
| rocky | Theuni: cvs as a dead simple workflow too ;) | 17:47 |
| rocky | *has | 17:48 |
| Theuni | the only thing that would interest me currently would be working offline, but then again, it's not that big an issue | 17:48 |
| Theuni | I feel like I just don't have the problem that bzr solves. | 17:48 |
| J1m | I've been pretty happing using svk to work offline. | 17:48 |
| J1m | happy | 17:48 |
| Theuni | J1m: yup. I heard that from philiKON too. | 17:48 |
| rocky | Theuni: what you're describing seems to be more of a dislike of DCVS working concepts rather than a problem with bzr specifically | 17:48 |
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| philiKON | Theuni, J1m: i'd like to investigate bzr-svn myself, though | 17:49 |
| Theuni | rocky: might be. | 17:49 |
| rocky | i've been using bzr-svn alot ... for me it's a lot better than svk for offline svn access but it's a bit buggier | 17:49 |
| Theuni | philiKON: that's using bzr as a local thing to work offline against a subversion repository? | 17:49 |
| philiKON | right | 17:49 |
| benji | I'll throw in that git-svn integration looks very nice. | 17:50 |
| rocky | benji: yeah i've heard that too | 17:50 |
| philiKON | i have an irrational dislike of git | 17:50 |
| CSWookie | I think it's funny to use something called "git" to keep track ofyour "knowledge work". | 17:50 |
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| mgedmin | git is very friendly to a console hacker | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | I was surprised | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | colorizing logs/diffs and piping them to less automatically | 17:54 |
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| Theuni | philiKON: i hate it because revision numbers become mumbo jumbo | 17:57 |
| Theuni | i mean. at least they don't pretend to have reasonable revision numbers | 17:57 |
| Theuni | but i'd like to have them. | 17:57 |
| Theuni | bzr tries to cobble some together and make me feel welcome until i try to actually use them | 17:58 |
| Theuni | J1m: the backup is flowing into svnn.zope.org:~ctheune now | 18:01 |
| J1m | I thought you were going to upload a (compressed somehow) tar ball | 18:02 |
| Theuni | i bailed on that because the machine was dogslow tarring (with and without) compression | 18:02 |
| J1m | so how are you transfering it? | 18:02 |
| Theuni | rsync | 18:03 |
| J1m | did you tell it to use compression? | 18:03 |
| Theuni | nope | 18:03 |
| J1m | you can configure ssh to compress as it goes. | 18:03 |
| Theuni | i know. | 18:03 |
| J1m | This generally speeds things up a lot. | 18:03 |
| Theuni | I'm trying to be easy on the CPUs. | 18:04 |
| Theuni | i'm a bit surprised about the low bandwith though | 18:04 |
| Theuni | do you do any throttling on your side by any chance? | 18:04 |
| J1m | Good question. | 18:04 |
| J1m | I'll check | 18:05 |
| Theuni | I see an outgoing rate of about 700k on my side and I'm sure our pipe can do more | 18:05 |
| Theuni | (It should be able to burst the full 100mbit) | 18:05 |
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| J1m | 700k what? | 18:06 |
| Theuni | kbytes per second | 18:06 |
| J1m | That's not bad over a wan. | 18:06 |
| Theuni | True, could be better though. ;) | 18:06 |
| Theuni | looking at the CPUs i can switch on compression, I guess. | 18:07 |
| mgedmin | rsync is not easy on the CPU | 18:07 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: however, the actual usage on the machines involved is ok, so adding compression should be fine | 18:07 |
| J1m | You may be having more trouble with disk than cpu | 18:07 |
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| Theuni | J1m: i saw it going into that machine with a much higher rate earlier. | 18:08 |
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| Theuni | hmm | 18:08 |
| Theuni | what surprises me more is that the first rsynced image on my intermediary server is much smaller | 18:09 |
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| * J1m doesn't have a good feeling | 18:10 | |
| Theuni | you want one? | 18:11 |
| J1m | That would be nice. | 18:11 |
| Theuni | I'll try to find one for you. | 18:11 |
| * benji thinks Theuni has started dealing drugs. | 18:11 | |
| J1m | an advantage of rsync is that it can recover from a lots connection. | 18:11 |
| J1m | s/lots/lost | 18:12 |
| * J1m wonder if he should ask mgedmin to put hist copy on a dvd and fedex it | 18:13 | |
| * J1m wonders if he should ask mgedmin to put his copy on a dvd and fedex it | 18:14 | |
| J1m | darn, those s's can wander | 18:14 |
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| mgedmin | scp would take ~8 hours | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | fedex would probably take longer | 18:16 |
| Theuni | J1m: I'm confident that my original copy is good. I'm relatively sure my intermediary copy is good. I wonder whether `du` is lying to me. | 18:16 |
| sp0cksbeard | Jim: The late Jim Gray actually did that once: http://www.metafilter.com/26926/Terabytes-by-mailInterview-with-Jim-Gray | 18:17 |
| mgedmin | different filesystem block size? | 18:17 |
| Theuni | The two machines have different file systems and I wonder whether this huge amount of tiny files creates a large overhead that mounts up to this huge deviation. | 18:17 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: that's what I'm thinking. | 18:17 |
| J1m | Theuni, use -h | 18:17 |
| Theuni | why would that help? | 18:17 |
| mgedmin | du --apparent-size might be better | 18:17 |
| J1m | It gives human-readable units. | 18:17 |
| Theuni | I already use that but it didn't help up until now. ;) | 18:18 |
| Theuni | mgedmin: looks much better | 18:18 |
| Theuni | give another new set of two different numbers, but they only differ by 500 bytes | 18:19 |
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| Theuni | my original backup server and the target both run ext3, so i hope the output of those is comparable | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | ext3 can use either 1kb blocks or 4kb blocks | 18:19 |
| Theuni | the intermediate server has xfs | 18:20 |
| mgedmin | although 4kb was made the default a long time ago | 18:20 |
| mgedmin | that explains the discrepancy | 18:20 |
| Theuni | J1m: i'm done | 18:20 |
| Theuni | the amount of files is identical | 18:21 |
| Theuni | and tests on the directories where the sum differs show identical file sizes | 18:21 |
| J1m | You're done? | 18:21 |
| Theuni | yup | 18:21 |
| J1m | The data has transfered to svn.zope.org? | 18:21 |
| Theuni | yes | 18:21 |
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| J1m | Cool | 18:23 |
| J1m | Much thanks!!!!!!!!!!! | 18:23 |
| J1m | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... | 18:23 |
| Theuni | the du with apparent-size flag shows 1040507 kbytes on svn.zope.org and 1040439 kbytes on my machine. you got some extra bytes along the way | 18:23 |
| Theuni | i blame that on file systems | 18:24 |
| Theuni | you're welcoe | 18:24 |
| Theuni | +m | 18:24 |
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| Theuni | Today "s"s are wandering and "m"s are hiding. | 18:24 |
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| bigkevmcd | and someone bought the !s in bulk | 18:31 |
| mgedmin | sssssssssssssssssssnakessssssssssssss | 18:31 |
| sawdog | where's the easiest way in a zc.buildout to find what package is requiring a specific dependency? I've got a buildout which is failing on ZConfig == 2.5.1 dependency....but am having a real hellofva time finding where the requirement is coming from. I have all the packages in my own index - but greping through everything looking for a clue,i.e. ZConfig and 2.5.1 are getting me no where | 18:36 |
| J1m | run in verbose mode, -v | 18:36 |
| sawdog | right, got that far | 18:36 |
| J1m | Look at the output. | 18:36 |
| sawdog | is it the preceeding package? | 18:36 |
| sawdog | right | 18:37 |
| J1m | It tells you why it is getting something. | 18:37 |
| J1m | It says something along the line of "Getting foo\nrequired by ..." | 18:37 |
| sawdog | Nope, here's what I've got; | 18:37 |
| sawdog | Installing zc.zope3recipes >=0.5.3 | 18:38 |
| sawdog | Picked: zc.zope3recipes = 0.6.2 | 18:38 |
| sawdog | getting required ZConfig == 2.5.1 | 18:38 |
| sawdog | We have no distributions for ZConfig that satisfy ZConfig==2.5.1 | 18:38 |
| sawdog | getting distribution for ZConfig==2.5.1 | 18:39 |
| J1m | Hm, try -vv | 18:39 |
| sawdog | ah, I had also tried -vvv (but not -vv) :) | 18:39 |
| sawdog | good, more info there - checking | 18:39 |
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| sawdog | yeah, basically the same thing when it gets into the failure bits | 18:41 |
| sawdog | it's not telling me which package is requiring the one I'm failing on | 18:42 |
| sawdog | unless it's as simple as the preceeding package | 18:42 |
| J1m | Yeah, I guess it is. But my output is different than yours. | 18:43 |
| J1m | For example, for a small buildout: | 18:44 |
| J1m | Installing 'zc.replaylog'. | 18:44 |
| J1m | We have a develop egg: zc.replaylog 0.1 | 18:44 |
| J1m | Getting required 'Twisted' | 18:44 |
| J1m | required by zc.replaylog 0.1. | 18:44 |
| J1m | We have the best distribution that satisfies 'Twisted'. | 18:44 |
| J1m | Picked: Twisted = 8.1.0 | 18:44 |
| J1m | Getting required 'setuptools' | 18:44 |
| J1m | required by zc.replaylog 0.1. | 18:44 |
| J1m | We have the best distribution that satisfies 'setuptools'. | 18:44 |
| J1m | Picked: setuptools = 0.6c9 | 18:44 |
| J1m | Getting required 'zope.interface' | 18:44 |
| J1m | required by Twisted 8.1.0. | 18:44 |
| J1m | We have the best distribution that satisfies 'zope.interface'. | 18:44 |
| J1m | That's with -v. | 18:44 |
| J1m | I wonder if you have a very old version of buildout. | 18:44 |
| sawdog | checking that; that's what I was just thinking | 18:45 |
| sawdog | ah, I checked zc.buildout from svn trunk | 18:45 |
| sawdog | should I use 1.1.1 from pypi instead? | 18:46 |
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| J1m | Yeah. I home someone didn't screw up the trunk. | 18:46 |
| J1m | There are tests that test this behavior. | 18:46 |
| sawdog | I grabbed this the other day; let me check 1.1.1 real quick | 18:46 |
| J1m | s/home/hope | 18:46 |
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| sawdog | weird | 18:51 |
| sawdog | installed 1.1.1 | 18:51 |
| mintsauce | hello again | 18:51 |
| sawdog | and same output | 18:51 |
| mintsauce | I have a schema based object that i want to 'attach' a number of images too - are there any recommended components to achieve this? | 18:52 |
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| mintsauce | in fact, is there a schema field for this? | 18:54 |
| sawdog | isn't telling me what it's required by....as in your example Jim. We'll, I'll keep bashing my head for the time beinh | 18:54 |
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| sawdog | Thanks Jim, I'll let you know how I fare.......appreciate it | 19:05 |
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| J1m | OK, I think the subversion repo is back. | 19:22 |
| mgedmin | yay, I think | 19:23 |
| J1m | Can people try it out and let me know if they see any problems? | 19:23 |
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| srichter | J1m: yay | 19:36 |
| srichter | thanks a lot for all the hard work! | 19:36 |
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| nyo | is it possible to upgrade viewvc or whatever it needs to make sorting by date work in svn browser view? | 20:00 |
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| mgedmin | nyo: you can use http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/ | 20:04 |
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| nyo | mgedmin: i know that, but it would be great if it was fixed in "official" svn view as well:) | 20:06 |
| mgedmin | my wish is that the official svn view was a trac instance... | 20:06 |
| nyo | mgedmin: +1 for that | 20:07 |
| nyo | trac's browser and revision log viewer is great | 20:07 |
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| mgedmin | ah, sudo -u syncuser /usr/bin/svn propdel svn:sync-lock --revprop -r 0 file:///stuff/zope-mirror | 20:12 |
| mgedmin | works now | 20:12 |
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