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| regebro | I'm trying to do some tests on what happens to a ZEO client when the connection to the server is dropped. No closed, but brutally dies. | 15:19 |
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| regebro | Does anybody have any idea of how to test that in a way that is unit testable? J1m? | 15:19 |
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| jayaraj | regebro, there are some bugs in that area for sure. most of the 'logicaly correct' setups dont work in practice. like the second diagram in this blog http://blog.musmo.com/2008/04/25/multiple-zeo-servers-sharing-the-same-database/ | 15:46 |
| jayaraj | regebro, we have tesing it manually and the result was negetive... and it was few months ago. | 15:47 |
| jayaraj | we have been* tesing it... | 15:47 |
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| regebro | I don't think that setup makes much sense to be honest. | 15:48 |
| regebro | Two servers talking to the same Data.fs? Nah. | 15:48 |
| regebro | But that doesn't matter, this is a completely different issue. | 15:48 |
| jayaraj | regebro, that setup was actually to add to reliability. the zope.conf has support for that too. and only one server will be used at a time and other one will be used only if first one is down | 15:51 |
| J1m | jayaraj, multiple zeo servers serving a single Data.fs is not a valid config. It shouldn't even be allowed by FileStorage, which uses a file lock. | 15:51 |
| J1m | regebro, I'm not sure what you were asking for above. | 15:52 |
| jayaraj | J1m yea there will be locking issues. i know. | 15:52 |
| regebro | J1m: Well, there are some bugs if a tcp connection gets dropped, by for example a firewall timing out. | 15:52 |
| J1m | I'll note though that, starting in ZODB 3.8, ZEO clients send keep-alive messages to servers periodically to help detect if connections are dropped in a way that would not normally be connected. | 15:53 |
| regebro | J1m: OK, that's good, that would at least help to avoid the problem. | 15:53 |
| regebro | J1m: Are there any tests for that? I couldn't find any. | 15:54 |
| regebro | Also there seems to be a bug reported that the client goes to 100% when trying to reconnect, maybe that actually gets fixed by that too? | 15:55 |
| J1m | I havent' seen this problem for ZEO, but I had observed it recently in ZRS replication using a VPN and adding keep alives there solved the problem. | 15:56 |
| J1m | I have no idea how to write automated tests for this, since I have no idea how to reproduce the problem. | 15:56 |
| J1m | I haven't seen that bug report. | 15:56 |
| J1m | I havent' observed that, but I don't think I'd care if I had. | 15:57 |
| jayaraj | J1m, but <zeoclient> element supports multiple zeo servers, right?. and in my setup the data.fs is on glusterfs and that saves us from locking issue. and is there any other issue than locking? | 15:57 |
| J1m | jayaraj, yes, that has nothing to do with multiple servers using the same storage. | 15:58 |
| J1m | This ability to use muiltiple servers is there to support replicated databases. | 15:58 |
| regebro | J1m: OK, thanks. | 15:59 |
| regebro | Using 3.8 with older versions of Zope shouldn't be a problem, right? | 15:59 |
| jayaraj | J1m, replicated in what way? drdb? | 15:59 |
| jayaraj | or zeo-raid, or zrs | 16:00 |
| J1m | zrs or zeo-raid. | 16:00 |
| jayaraj | ok | 16:00 |
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| J1m | regebro, right | 16:01 |
| regebro | cool. | 16:01 |
| J1m | ZODB 3.8 servers support ZODB 3.2 to ZODB 3.8 clients. | 16:01 |
| jayaraj | thats nice | 16:01 |
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| Vq^ | can pagelets be used to create a static number of nested views? | 16:39 |
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| Vq^ | in the demos i've seen only one pagelet is imported in a template | 16:40 |
| Vq^ | i would like to have a view that uses two other pagelets | 16:42 |
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| nyo | Vq^: Not with standard implementation. But you can override its "publishTraverse" method to do further traversing | 17:07 |
| nyo | (because default BrowserPagelet inherits from BrowserPage that raises NotFound in its publishTraverse | 17:07 |
| Vq^ | i've just found the addressbook example in z3c.formdemo and it seems to do what i want, with the exception that it creates the sub-pagelets in python-code | 17:10 |
| Vq^ | but maybe thats something i got to live with? | 17:10 |
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| mintsauce | I'm trying to call a class, from within a class that's called by a page template, but i keep getting this error: | 19:24 |
| mintsauce | TypeError: unbound method method() must be called with Class instance as first argument (got SimpleViewClass from /Users/mintsauce/sandbox/browser/template.pt instance instead) | 19:24 |
| mintsauce | tfrom template.py the call is: otherfilename.Class.method(self) | 19:24 |
| mintsauce | what am i doing wrong? | 19:24 |
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| Theuni | you have to call it on an instance | 19:27 |
| Theuni | ah | 19:28 |
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| Theuni | you're trying to pass self | 19:28 |
| Theuni | but self isn't an instance of Class or a subclass of it. | 19:28 |
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