IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2009-02-12

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tistohi, I have a question regarding the zope3 tutorial I have copied from new.zope.org:09:29
tistohttp://wiki.zope.org/zope3/ADynamicHelloWorld09:29
tistosomeone changed the namespace in the configure file from "helloworld" to "hello"09:30
tistobut the namespace refers to the application, and not to a single view, right?09:30
tistoso it should be "helloworld"...09:31
afd_tisto: do you mean the i18n_domain attribute?09:31
tistobecause the application is called helloworld09:31
tistoyes09:31
afd_that's something else09:31
afd_that is only used in internationalization, it's the name of the message catalog that will be used to register messages inside that package09:32
tistoof course!09:33
afd_so it doesn't depend on the name of the package09:33
tistobut the i18n should refer to the package and not to a single view, right?09:33
afd_no, that's just a name there, it could be anything09:34
tistobecause the application is called "helloworld" and the view "hello"09:34
afd_when you extract messages from your application, you tell the extractor what message domain (that name) it should look up for09:34
tistook, I understand...but the default value should (or at least could) be the package name, right?09:35
afd_it could be09:36
afd_but not always09:36
afd_think about this situation: I'm building an application that has multiple packages09:36
tistoI know...I've used i18n in plone before...09:36
afd_I want all the messages to be extracted and managed from a single domain...09:37
afd_if I would create message domains for each package, then I'd have to deal with multiple po files09:37
afd_tisto: There's also this package, as an example, if you want to take it as a tutorial (also has pdf file inside) http://code.google.com/p/z3ergo/source/browse/#svn/LearningJourney09:38
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tistoof course...but if you would create on simple hello world application you would name the i18n domain after the package name and not after the view name...09:38
tistothat was my question in the first place... :)09:38
afd_but then you would never ask yourself this question, and think that you need to put the package name there :)09:39
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tistook, but I don't want to explain or even bother the reader with i18n issues in this tutorial...09:40
afd_then, if that tutorial doesn't deal with i18n issues, I'd just take out that attribute completely09:41
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tistook, this is probably the best idea...09:41
tistothank's for the clarification!09:42
afd_np09:42
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yotaffI dont' understand why some zope components are missing in the KGS 3.4, like zope.copy18:53
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agroszeryotaff, because it's more recent than 3.418:54
yotaffhmm18:56
yotaffI think it's the default conf from zopeproject18:57
agroszerwait18:57
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yotaffyes, it is18:57
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agroszerchecked, it's definitely a 3.5 package18:58
agroszerproduct of the recent refactorings18:58
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agroszerso it'll never get into the 3.4 KGS18:59
yotaffdo you want the list of missing products?18:59
yotaffzopeproject could add a kgs (or zope version) option19:00
agroszerwell, current package versions are quite on the move lately19:01
agroszerthat's why the KGS is there19:02
yotaffnot for change KGS 3.4, but to know the list of wrong packages used by zopeproject19:03
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nyoyotaff: just add KGS settings to zopeproject-generated buildout19:07
agroszeryah19:07
* nyo should upload a new version of zopeproject with versions fixed though19:08
yotaffI use KGS Zope with zc.zope3recipes, the goal is to remove zopeproject ;)19:09
yotaffI use internals KGS too (one for our product, one for vendor)19:10
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Count-DuckulaI know this is a z2 question, but I'm struggling.....where can I put some code that's run after zope is fully up, but before it accepts requests? (z2)19:32
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