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| goschtl | Hi is it possible to get a custom principal instead the default one in principalfolder.Principal? | 12:59 |
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| imgrey | hi #zope3-dev | 13:46 |
| imgrey | say I want object to save itself in zodb when garbage collector tries to collect it. | 13:46 |
| imgrey | is it possible ? | 13:47 |
| zagy | imgrey: I don't know but I think you're doing something which you should not | 13:58 |
| imgrey | zagy, like overloading __del__ method ? | 13:58 |
| zagy | imgrey: read about __del__ and gc first (see the gc module) | 13:59 |
| zagy | in short: you don't want to use __dell__ at all | 14:00 |
| imgrey | zagy, I know that it is not a very good idea to use __del__ | 14:00 |
| zagy | why don't you just put your objects to the zodb? | 14:00 |
| imgrey | but maybe I can use gc to check references and then store object in db at some point in time | 14:01 |
| imgrey | zagy, I want object to store itself in db | 14:01 |
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| zagy | you object is certainly referenced by another object isn't it? | 14:02 |
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| imgrey | zagy, yes | 14:40 |
| imgrey | with weak refference | 14:40 |
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| mgedmin | can you persist weakrefs? | 14:43 |
| mgedmin | wait, zodb has some kind of PersistentWeakReference, no? | 14:43 |
| imgrey | seems yes | 14:43 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: what problem are you trying to solve with these unconventional techiques? | 14:43 |
| imgrey | I'm using twisted. reactor serves user requests. At ant point in time object may be created or requested. I want objects to be stored in memory and drop them to db only when they're not necessary anymore | 14:45 |
| imgrey | in order to decrease the load | 14:45 |
| mgedmin | do you use threads? | 14:45 |
| imgrey | and because only one connection at a time is possible to zodb. as data is a tree | 14:46 |
| imgrey | and this tree may not be modified my multiple processes | 14:46 |
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| imgrey | mgedmin, yes | 14:49 |
| imgrey | sorry | 14:49 |
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| imgrey | cannot understand how to automate storing objects to db if __del__ is prohibited | 14:51 |
| zagy | imgrey: objects are automatically stored whenever you reference them from an object which is already in the database | 14:52 |
| imgrey | zagy, what reference I shall use strong or weak ? | 14:53 |
| zagy | strong | 14:53 |
| zagy | objects are automatically removed from memory a times | 14:54 |
| zagy | s/a times/at times/ | 14:54 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: different threads have separate ZODB caches, you cannot access the same object from different threads if you do not store it | 14:54 |
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