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| imgrey | is it possible to make zodb to store data in RAM ? | 11:51 |
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| mgedmin | you could use MappingStorage | 11:54 |
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| nyo | who is maintaining docs.zope.org? | 16:54 |
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| Theuni1 | nyo: jens vagelpohl | 17:02 |
| nyo | Theuni1: tnx | 17:04 |
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| imgrey | mgedmin, I do not see a way to use it with ZEO | 17:20 |
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| mgedmin | imgrey: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 17:20 |
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| mgedmin | MappingStorage is intended for throwaway data such as used for functional tests (although DemoStorage may be more convenient there) | 17:21 |
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| mgedmin | from your questions it sounds like you're reinventing memcached | 17:21 |
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| imgrey | mgedmin, right. ZODB was an option. probably it will be better to use memcache | 17:23 |
| * mgedmin is, actually, surprised that you cannot use mapping storage as a zeo backend, and wonders why that is | 17:24 | |
| Theuni1 | mgedmin: usually you use mappingstorage and demostorage together | 17:25 |
| Theuni1 | actually i think you should be able to use it with zeo | 17:25 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, do you know how to configure zeo to use MappingStorage ? | 17:25 |
| Theuni1 | but i've gotta run now | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | isn't it just a matter of saying <mappingstorage /> in zeo.conf? | 17:25 |
| * mgedmin not familiar with zeo configuration details, actually | 17:26 | |
| imgrey | mgedmin, seems runzeo script wont read any configuration files | 17:28 |
| imgrey | tried with strace | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | hm | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | why do I see zeo.confs around then? | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | with <filestorage> in them | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | actually, <filestorage 1> | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | in zope.conf it's ZConfig magic that lets you use pluggable storage backends, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing were being used here | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | does runzeo fork? did you run strace with -f? | 17:30 |
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| imgrey | mgedmin, could you pls show your zeo.conf ? | 17:30 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, yes, with -f | 17:30 |
| mgedmin | or does zeoctl read the .conf file and convert the settings into command-line args for runzeo? | 17:30 |
| mgedmin | in which case <mappingstorage> is not likely to work | 17:30 |
| * mgedmin doesn't have a zeo.conf, me found one in the root of his Zope 3 checkout | 17:30 | |
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| imgrey | this is my zope.conf: http://dpaste.com/4634/ | 17:32 |
| imgrey | I've found out the source of problem | 17:33 |
| imgrey | there's two 'runzeo' scripts. one in ./ZEO/ and another in ./ZEO/scripts/ | 17:34 |
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| imgrey | damn | 18:10 |
| imgrey | could someone tell svn url of zope3 trunk ? | 18:10 |
| imgrey | \svn: Repository moved permanently to '/Zope3/'; please relocate\ | 18:10 |
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| afd_ | imgrey: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main | 18:14 |
| afd_ | and then the svn module, Zope3/trunk | 18:14 |
| imgrey | afd_, thanks | 18:14 |
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| junkafarian | i have a BTreeContainer object with a PersistentDict attribute is there any reason for it not to be persisting? | 19:34 |
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| junkafarian | i am ensuring i do a transaction.commit() whenever changing values to be on the safe side | 19:34 |
| zagy | junkafarian: wah, commit should be done by the publisher | 19:35 |
| zagy | junkafarian: this should be persistent, indeed | 19:35 |
| imgrey_ | what does this mean: """Error: no matching section defined for type='zodb', name='None'""" ? | 19:35 |
| imgrey_ | cannot understand how to run zeo correctly | 19:35 |
| imgrey_ | not specifying options from command line | 19:35 |
| junkafarian | i am able to access the contents fine while the service is still running but if i restart the process it purges the data | 19:35 |
| imgrey_ | is it even possible ? | 19:35 |
| imgrey_ | because I haven't seen anything working | 19:36 |
| zagy | junkafarian: are you using zodb just by itself? | 19:36 |
| jap | imgrey_: do you have a correct configfile? | 19:36 |
| junkafarian | w/o zeo? yeah | 19:36 |
| mgedmin | imgrey_: that error means you don't have a <zodb> section in the config file | 19:36 |
| zagy | junkafarian: w/o zope? | 19:36 |
| imgrey_ | jap, how I can check ? | 19:36 |
| junkafarian | with zope | 19:37 |
| junkafarian | tis where it gets the BTreeContainer from | 19:37 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: show us the code please | 19:37 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, http://dpaste.com/4701/ | 19:37 |
| imgrey_ | there's <zodb> section | 19:37 |
| mgedmin | dpaste.com is slow | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | still slow | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | either that, or my internet died | 19:38 |
| imgrey_ | tried to leave only this: """<zodb><mappingstorage /></zodb>""" | 19:38 |
| jap | imgrey_: http://pastebin.com/d682b8223 | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | *tap* *tap* can anybo.. | 19:38 |
| imgrey_ | the same | 19:38 |
| mgedmin | ok, loaded ;) | 19:38 |
| jap | is a working setup for me ;) | 19:38 |
| jap | (for the server) | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | imgrey_: that looks like a zope.conf | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | but you said you were trying to run zeo, and not zope? | 19:39 |
| junkafarian | mgedmin / zagy: http://pastebin.com/d47a9648d | 19:39 |
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| mgedmin | aren't threaded conversations fun? | 19:39 |
| jap | love it :) | 19:39 |
| junkafarian | multitasking :P | 19:39 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: do you know the difference between class attributes and instance attributes? | 19:40 |
| mgedmin | learning it will save you much headaches in the future | 19:40 |
| mgedmin | summary: your PersistentDict() instance is never stored, because there are no references to it from any ZODB objects | 19:40 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, how to configure ZEO then ? | 19:40 |
| jap | imgrey_: see the zeo conf i just pasted | 19:41 |
| imgrey_ | and descript mappingstorage and filestorage | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | there's an indirect reference from through your btree's __class__, which itself is a non-persistent class object | 19:41 |
| imgrey_ | jap, the thing is that I need mappingstorage | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | imgrey_: take jap's zeo.conf, replace <blobstorage 1> with <mappingstorage 1> and see what happens | 19:41 |
| junkafarian | mgedmin: how do i push the attribute on the persistant instances then? | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: write a __init__ method | 19:41 |
| zagy | junkafarian: __init__ | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | never ever have mutable class attributes | 19:41 |
| mgedmin | (unless you really need them) | 19:41 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, tried | 19:42 |
| junkafarian | hmmm, i see | 19:42 |
| mgedmin | imgrey_: and? | 19:42 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, I wouldnt aske if not tried | 19:42 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, Error: no matching section defined for type='mappingstorage', name='None' | 19:42 |
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| jap | imgrey_: and you run it like bin/runzeo -C etc/zeo.config start ? | 19:42 |
| imgrey_ | mgedmin, http://dpaste.com/4705/ | 19:42 |
| imgrey_ | jamur2, yes | 19:42 |
| imgrey_ | jamur2, without 'start' | 19:43 |
| jap | ehm yep drop the start | 19:43 |
| jamur2 | imgrey_: wrong tab completion? | 19:43 |
| junkafarian | mgedmin: do i need to specify the attr in the class for interface convenience? | 19:43 |
| jap | what if you remove the inner mappingstorage? | 19:43 |
| imgrey_ | jamur2, no tabs or spaces at all | 19:43 |
| jap | imgrey_: he's probably refering to his nick being completed instead of mine | 19:44 |
| mgedmin | jamur2: pass the messages over to jap, I think ;) | 19:44 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: what? | 19:44 |
| mgedmin | what does 'interface convenience' mean? | 19:44 |
| imgrey_ | jap, without <mappingstorage /> it starts | 19:44 |
| junkafarian | should i specify pending_credit_card_refs = {} in the class and then self.pending_credit_card_refs = PersistentDict()? | 19:44 |
| imgrey_ | """StorageServer created RW with storages: 1:RW:Mapping Storage""" | 19:45 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: no | 19:45 |
| imgrey_ | seems it started | 19:45 |
| jap | hmm, and making the monitor-address different from the normal address? | 19:45 |
| junkafarian | ok, will give it a go | 19:45 |
| mgedmin | that would be potentially dangerous even | 19:45 |
| mgedmin | objects loaded from old databases would get the class attribute, while new objects would each get a separate new shiny persistent dict | 19:46 |
| mgedmin | hello, hard to debug problems | 19:46 |
| imgrey_ | hmm. why this is not working: http://dpaste.com/4709/ ? | 19:46 |
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| mgedmin | zodb is hard | 19:46 |
| imgrey_ | |Error: None is not an allowed name for 'zodb.storage' sections| | 19:46 |
| mgedmin | but pretends to be easy | 19:46 |
| jap | imgrey_: try <filestorage 2> , that's how you give it a name | 19:46 |
| mgedmin | no | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | it's <$storagetype $name> | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | I suspect imgrey found a bug | 19:47 |
| junkafarian | mgedmin: i need to add the attribute to an existing object? | 19:47 |
| imgrey_ | jap, thanks | 19:47 |
| imgrey_ | how to reference these storages fron application now ? | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | junkafarian: just rm Data.fs before you continue, if you can afford to do that | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | simplest way | 19:48 |
| imgrey_ | here: ZEO.ClientStorage.ClientStorage(('127.0.0.1', 9100)) ? | 19:48 |
| junkafarian | mgedmin: i cant :P | 19:48 |
| junkafarian | its dev work for an existing production site | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | then you'll have to learn about evolution scripts | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | I'm sure they're documented somewhere | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | perhaps even stephan's book? | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | you have a schema manager already set up for your app, right? | 19:49 |
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| junkafarian | schema manager? | 19:49 |
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| mgedmin | sorry, gotta go | 19:50 |
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| jap | imgrey_: that should work | 19:51 |
| jap | and then ......(addr=('127.0.0.1', 9100), storage='2') to get to your filestorage | 19:53 |
| imgrey_ | jap, yes, thanks. I've figured out ) | 19:54 |
| imgrey_ | maybe it is even possible to run it in daemon mode ? | 19:54 |
| jap | the zeo server? | 19:54 |
| imgrey_ | yes | 19:55 |
| jap | you can do that using zdaemon | 19:55 |
| jap | that's where my "start" came from ;) | 19:55 |
| jap | bin/zdaemon -p "bin/runzeo -C etc/zeo.config" start | 19:55 |
| jap | should do the trick | 19:55 |
| imgrey_ | canot find zdaemon in my ZODB | 19:57 |
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| jap | hm, then I'm wonderig where that came from in my setup | 20:01 |
| jap | ah, there's a zdaemon egg installed in my virtual env whihc probably caused that | 20:02 |
| imgrey_ | hmm, there's no fine zdaemon in zdaemon egg | 20:04 |
| imgrey_ | zdaemon-2.0.2 | 20:04 |
| jap | that's the one | 20:04 |
| jap | weird | 20:05 |
| imgrey_ | ah, ok it has installed in /usr/bin | 20:05 |
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| imgrey_ | what is the correct way to download eggs to separate directory ? | 20:09 |
| imgrey_ | not systems /usr/lib/python/site-packages | 20:09 |
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| imgrey_ | zc.buildout I suppose ? | 20:11 |
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