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| imgrey | hi #zope3-dev | 12:12 |
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| imgrey | could someone plz take a look at my zoe.conf: http://dpaste.com/32987/ | 12:13 |
| imgrey | Im trying to run zeo in daemon mode | 12:13 |
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| imgrey | could someone explain me why zdaemon tries to connect to unexistent socket ? | 14:23 |
| imgrey | wtf is daemon manager and how to run it ? | 14:23 |
| mgedmin | sorry, bit of black magic there | 14:44 |
| mgedmin | making sense of zdaemon.conf + zeo.conf is hard | 14:45 |
| mgedmin | a coworker did it once and I'm happy just to use it while it works | 14:45 |
| * mgedmin now feels guilty about spreading zope fud... | 14:45 | |
| mgedmin | daemon manager == zdaemon == a tool to make sure the server proces (zope, zeo or whatever) comes up, and stays up | 14:46 |
| mgedmin | if zeo would crash, zdaemon would restart it | 14:46 |
| mgedmin | zdaemon also maintains the .pid file, and lets you control it using zeoctl start/stop | 14:46 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, h,, could you plz show a working config of zeo and zdaemon plz ? | 14:54 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: do you use zc.buildout, or are you writing those by hand? | 14:54 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, buildout | 14:54 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: http://pastie.org/445945 | 14:55 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, hmm, Ive initialized environment with buildout once and forgot how to use it. this is my current configs: http://dpaste.com/33157/ | 14:58 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, do you know what it is necessary to change to make zdaemon to run zeo as a daemon correctly ? | 14:58 |
| imgrey | because at the moment it hangs | 14:58 |
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| mgedmin | how do you run it? | 14:59 |
| mgedmin | how does it hang? | 14:59 |
| DrogoNevets | hi all - can anyone help me, i recently ran buildout (on windows) and all of a sudden get | 14:59 |
| DrogoNevets | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'IRoot' | 14:59 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, zdaemon -C zdaemon.conf start | 14:59 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, it writes dots | 15:00 |
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| mgedmin | imgrey: buildout creates bin/zeoctl for you, you should use it, I think | 15:00 |
| DrogoNevets | has anyone seen this before?or know why i might be getting it (it does genuinely appear not to exist) | 15:00 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, and wont detach process | 15:00 |
| mgedmin | DrogoNevets: your question lacks information | 15:00 |
| mgedmin | pastebin the full traceback please | 15:00 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, Ive created link on zeoctl on my own | 15:00 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: where does 'zdaemon' comes from? it looks like something in your $PATH | 15:00 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, yes, it was installed with easy_install | 15:01 |
| DrogoNevets | mgedmin: http://pastebin.com/m5a5fec42 | 15:01 |
| mgedmin | imgrey: did you also easy_install zeo? | 15:02 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, no | 15:02 |
| mgedmin | well, zeo is not a package name, it would have to be ZODB3... but maybe that's not a good idea... | 15:02 |
| DrogoNevets | when going into the python in my bin directory I can import as far as interfaces, and when I look to see what classes are available IRoot doesnt appear in the list - but it was working fine last week, and working fine on LINUX and have tried rebuilding from scratch | 15:03 |
| imgrey | mgedmin, Ive tried to use zdaemon which buildout installed and it was not working, so installed with easy_install | 15:03 |
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| DrogoNevets | ok - now getting "Error: unknown type name: 'blobstorage'", and before anyone says anything, that is all the info i get given! | 15:20 |
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| nouri | So includeOverrides doesn't seem to override sometimes. | 16:23 |
| nouri | I get a ConfigurationConflictError where one of the files was included via includeOverrides. | 16:24 |
| nouri | Anyone have a clue? | 16:24 |
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| pyqwer | nouri: Silly idea - perhaps you already have this in this/another includeOverrides file? | 16:26 |
| nouri | pyqwer: Hey there | 16:26 |
| pyqwer | Hi! :-) | 16:26 |
| nouri | pyqwer: I don't think so. This z3c/form/file.zcml is unlikely to be pulled in via another includeOverrides. | 16:27 |
| pyqwer | Hmmm... | 16:27 |
| nouri | It seems to help if I put my includeOverrides higher up in the tree of included files. | 16:30 |
| nouri | No idea why. | 16:30 |
| pyqwer | Interesting. | 16:31 |
| pyqwer | What I did in such cases is to put some debug information into the included file, so that I see when it was included. | 16:31 |
| nouri | How would I do that? | 16:33 |
| nouri | Is there debug statement? | 16:34 |
| pyqwer | Simply by putting some "print/log" into the included file... | 16:39 |
| nouri | Ah | 16:39 |
| pyqwer | And then starting the instance. | 16:39 |
| pyqwer | Or maybe by registering something in the ZCML-file that does some debug output. | 16:40 |
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| mgedmin | nouri: includeOverrides is a very very very very twisted concept | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | you've got to have a PhD in computer science to understand it | 17:42 |
| nouri | mgedmin: It is, isn't it? | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | that, or read the source code :) | 17:42 |
| nouri | I'd rather have a PhD :-P | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | there's this include tree, and includeOverrides pretends an intermediate tree node doesn't exist, and then the regular conflict mechanism allows parent nodes to override everything in child nodes | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | which is exactly not what everyone intuitively understands as "overrides" | 17:43 |
| * mgedmin sighs | 17:43 | |
| * runyaga gasps | 17:44 | |
| runyaga | mgedmin, a zope concept that is super complicated? | 17:44 |
| runyaga | oh your talking about the implementaiton of it | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | s/your/you're/, please | 17:45 |
| runyaga | should nt that be ignore? | 17:45 |
| * mgedmin is snippy today :) | 17:45 | |
| * runyaga could say ur | 17:45 | |
| mgedmin | there's this uncanny valley of typos | 17:45 |
| runyaga | once you're in you never escape? | 17:46 |
| mgedmin | the closer your text is to the correct spelling while still being incorrect, the moar irritating it is | 17:46 |
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| runyaga | heh | 17:46 |
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| mgedmin | anyway, nouri found the correct solution: moving includeOverrides higher up in the tree | 17:48 |
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| nouri | THis is terrifying | 17:58 |
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| DrogoNevets | hi please someone help - im begining to want to KILL my machine - http://paste.plone.org/27551 | 18:01 |
| DrogoNevets | that is all i get, the whole error | 18:01 |
| DrogoNevets | i havnt touched zope.conf | 18:01 |
| runyaga | really? | 18:03 |
| runyaga | what version? | 18:03 |
| DrogoNevets | really, i even went as far as reinstalling EVERYTHING (including python) | 18:03 |
| DrogoNevets | version of what, zope? | 18:03 |
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| runyaga | yes | 18:04 |
| DrogoNevets | zope3.4 | 18:04 |
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| DrogoNevets | runyaga: you come across this before? | 18:05 |
| runyaga | 3.4? what version of zodb? | 18:06 |
| runyaga | 3.4 release? | 18:06 |
| runyaga | or 3.4 from KGS? | 18:06 |
| runyaga | because.. there is certainly a blobstorage in zodb | 18:06 |
| runyaga | brb | 18:06 |
| DrogoNevets | 3.4 doesnt actually work - i just used the follwing installer | 18:06 |
| DrogoNevets | http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope3/3.3.1 | 18:06 |
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| DrogoNevets | ok runyaga | 18:11 |
| DrogoNevets | strangely, i dont seem to have a Data.fs either :S | 18:13 |
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