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| __mac__ | Hi, which bug tracker should I use for bugs in z3c.form? | 09:58 |
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| Theuni1 | benji: ping | 16:16 |
| benji | he, Theuni1, what's up? | 16:16 |
| benji | when did you grow a "1"? | 16:16 |
| Theuni1 | I'm fixing another issue with the test runner right now and see a post-mortem issue in src/zope/testing/testrunner/testrunner-debugging-layer-setup.test on Python 2.4 | 16:16 |
| Theuni1 | benji: since some guy stole and re-registered my nick on freenode :( | 16:17 |
| benji | :( | 16:17 |
| Theuni1 | I have no idea how that happened. | 16:17 |
| benji | if you talk to the ops they might be helpful | 16:17 |
| Theuni1 | Someone mentioned I might have languished logging in for too long at some point. | 16:17 |
| Theuni1 | I never got an email ping or something, though. | 16:17 |
| Theuni1 | So "stealing" was more a stolen by the powers instead of the guy. | 16:18 |
| Theuni1 | anyway. do you see that broken test on Python 2.4 as well? | 16:18 |
| Theuni1 | 2.5 and 2.6 work fine | 16:18 |
| benji | I'm fairly certain 2.4 passed the last time I checked in; let me run the tests real quick | 16:18 |
| Theuni1 | k | 16:19 |
| Theuni1 | I'm checking against plain trunk again too | 16:19 |
| Theuni1 | there's also breakage on test26 with the profiler | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | some zip issue | 16:20 |
| benji | 2.4.4 with the HEAD of the trunk passes here | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | and the PM issue for 2.4 is there for me | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | :/ | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | I'm on 2.4.5 | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | I'm more right! ;) | 16:20 |
| Theuni1 | which i hate right now | 16:21 |
| Theuni1 | because that usually ends with me fixing it | 16:21 |
| Theuni1 | anyway | 16:21 |
| Theuni1 | the errors existed before I did what I did. | 16:21 |
| Theuni1 | I'll produce another checkin for those issues later | 16:21 |
| Theuni1 | my 2.6 is 2.6.2 | 16:22 |
| Theuni1 | you mind checking what 2.6 you've been using? | 16:22 |
| benji | sure, one sec | 16:22 |
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| benji | using 2.6.1 all tests pass except testrunner-profiling.txt (a known failure on 2.6) | 16:24 |
| Theuni1 | ok | 16:26 |
| Theuni1 | so 2.6.2 doesn't change that and I'm fine | 16:26 |
| Theuni1 | the 2.4.5 failure has been there before | 16:27 |
| Theuni1 | do you mind if i cut another release with my new change? | 16:27 |
| Theuni1 | I don't have the time to take care of the 2.4.5 issue right now. | 16:27 |
| Theuni1 | But I'd like to have a release with my change. | 16:27 |
| benji | does the current release have the problem? | 16:28 |
| Theuni1 | yes | 16:28 |
| Theuni1 | well | 16:28 |
| Theuni1 | if the release is what the trunk was 20 minutes ago ;) | 16:28 |
| Theuni1 | lemme check | 16:28 |
| benji | heh | 16:28 |
| benji | if so, I don't see any reason not to; if not, we should find out what broke it before making a newly-broken release | 16:28 |
| Theuni1 | yup | 16:29 |
| Theuni1 | trunk and release where equal | 16:29 |
| Theuni1 | i'll cut a release now and make a not to investigate this | 16:29 |
| benji | k | 16:29 |
| benji | I'll go have a morning meeting. ;) | 16:29 |
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| baijum | Interesting : http://jacobian.org/writing/django-apps-with-buildout/ | 18:50 |
| baijum | (by the creator of Django) | 18:51 |
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| grookoo | baijum: I personally really liked that blog entry | 19:18 |
| grookoo | And I think he did a second one where he merged the comments he received on that one | 19:18 |
| baijum | grookoo: Yeah. I saw now | 19:19 |
| grookoo | It is excellent introduction material | 19:19 |
| baijum | sure | 19:19 |
| baijum | Buildout is getting very popular now | 19:19 |
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| grookoo | Talking about buildout, I am trying to figure out how z3c.testbrowser's testrunner is supposed to work. Can anyone help me here? | 19:22 |
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| grookoo | When I svn out z3c.testbrowser, run python2.5 bootstrap.py, run bin/buildout, my bin/test can not find some of the packages mentioned in the setup.py | 19:22 |
| grookoo | in the setup.py's extras_require | 19:23 |
| grookoo | Is it buildout that is supposed to get hold of the extra packages? Or is it the testrunner recipe? Or am I missing a step altogether? | 19:23 |
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| grookoo | The documentation does not say much about extras_require but from one of Jim's older messages (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2007-March/007395.html) it looks like it should all work out and all pieces are in place | 19:25 |
| grookoo | to me, zope.app.component' | 19:27 |
| grookoo | to me, zope.app.component's setup.py and buildout.cfg are setup in a simliar way to z3c.testbrowser but z.a.component downloads the eggs required for tests when you run bin/buildout while z3c.testbrowser does not download the test required packages no matter what I do | 19:28 |
| afd__ | grookoo: I think only install_requires are followed | 19:30 |
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| grookoo | afd__: So when is it supposed to get hold of the setup.py extras_require stuff? | 19:31 |
| grookoo | (by the way, I checked out the 3.4.2 version not trunk) | 19:31 |
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| afd__ | grookoo: not sure :) Maybe I know wrong | 19:32 |
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| grookoo | I think I will revert to the fundamentals and start reading some zc.buildout and some testrunner recipe source code | 19:35 |
| grookoo | If I figure it out, I will write it up somewhere in the wiki :) | 19:35 |
| grookoo | But better not hold your breath. It is not clear I will ever figure it out nor that I could write it in a clear enough way that other could read it | 19:37 |
| afd__ | grookoo: which z3c.testbrowser you're talking about? | 19:37 |
| afd__ | I can't find any... | 19:38 |
| afd__ | if you want to setup a testrunner for your buildout, use zc.recipe.testrunner | 19:38 |
| afd__ | make a new section in the buildout, set the recipe to that one | 19:39 |
| grookoo | Sorry it is zope.testbrowser 3.4.2 | 19:39 |
| afd__ | grookoo: there's nothing special about it, I mean concerning buildout integration | 19:39 |
| grookoo | And it is already there. Everything seems to be set up properly. It just does not "download" and set the path for the test packages properly | 19:39 |
| afd__ | it's the job of the test runner to discover tests | 19:39 |
| afd__ | oh, you have an install problem | 19:39 |
| grookoo | I guess so :) | 19:40 |
| grookoo | I got someone else to try and he had the same results. Unfortunatly he did not know more about buildout than I do :/ | 19:40 |
| afd__ | grookoo: set your package to depend on zope.testbrowser | 19:41 |
| afd__ | to require in install_requires | 19:41 |
| grookoo | But my package IS zope.testbrowser | 19:41 |
| grookoo | I am trying to test zope.testbrowser with a newer version of mechanize | 19:42 |
| grookoo | The problem is I am pretty new to core development and buildout | 19:42 |
| afd__ | sorry, I think I didn't follow through from the beginning | 19:43 |
| afd__ | grookoo: probably you should add those eggs from the setup.py extras to the buildout file | 19:43 |
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| grookoo | Ok. So out of the box, the bin/test of zope.testbrowser is not supposed to work? | 19:45 |
| * mgedmin is intrigued by the question | 19:46 | |
| grookoo | Don't understand me wrong. I will add those eggs to the buildout file if you think that is what I have to do. I just wonder how you folks deal with this every day | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | this *should* work: svn checkout; run bootstrap & buildout, run bin/test | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | if it fails to work, it's a bug | 19:47 |
| mgedmin | ... or your environment is incomplete | 19:48 |
| mgedmin | e.g. if you don't have python installed, it's not a bug if bootstrap fails :) | 19:48 |
| grookoo | Ok. Then I will log it as a bug and also make the change locally for myself. I would not dare making the commit | 19:48 |
| grookoo | I think I do have python installed ;) | 19:48 |
| afd__ | mgedmin: the setup.py of zope.testbrowser has a extras_require section, which seems not to be honored by buildout | 19:49 |
| mgedmin | are you saying that buildout.cfg has a line saying "eggs = zope.testbrowser [extra]", yet that '[extra]' is not honored? | 19:49 |
| afd__ | no | 19:50 |
| grookoo | afd__: Just to complete what I see. My comparaison egg zope.app.component does not specifically write out the egg names in its buildout.cfg | 19:50 |
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| mgedmin | you need to specify at least *some* egg names in buildout.cfg; the rest are pulled in via install_requires | 19:51 |
| grookoo | Yes, I have a eggs = zope.testbrowser [test] in the zc.recipe.testrunner but it does not pick up the extras_require of test | 19:51 |
| mgedmin | extras_required go into play only if your buildout.cfg explicitly mentions [extra], *or* if some egg that's pulled in via install_requires/extras_requires depens on a package with an [extra] bit | 19:51 |
| mgedmin | okay, this looks like a bug to me | 19:52 |
| grookoo | well it does! :) | 19:52 |
| grookoo | I could have went the path of thinking it is a bug a long time ago but I felt it is very unlikely to just go wrong on zope.testbrowser and no where else | 19:53 |
| grookoo | I will log it anyway | 19:53 |
| grookoo | By the way, is it a buildout bug or a zc.recipe.testrunner bug? | 19:55 |
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| mgedmin | sounds like a buildout bug | 19:55 |
| mgedmin | but it still could conceivably be a user error :) | 19:56 |
| mgedmin | both use launchpad as the bug tracker, right? | 19:56 |
| mgedmin | in which case the bug can be simply reassigned | 19:56 |
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| grookoo | Of course most problems are caused by the person typing on the keyboard. But on this one I got someone else (who is as clueless as I am) to reproduce on his system :) | 19:57 |
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| grookoo | I feel like an idiot. The bug was already logged... #291520 but the bug was not very googlable | 19:59 |
| Theuni1 | grookoo: in that case you might want to add a comment which might make it more googleable | 20:01 |
| grookoo | I will. Am just making sure it is my issue too | 20:01 |
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| grookoo | Ok.. it is the problem. You are not allowed to pin the version of extras. | 20:05 |
| * mgedmin blinks | 20:05 | |
| mgedmin | huh? | 20:05 |
| mgedmin | you mean foo.bar[extra1, extra2] == 1.2.3 doesn't work? | 20:05 |
| grookoo | I don't know. :) But when I remove my versions = versions in [buildout] and my [versions] section, it starts pulling out all the stuff it needs for running tests | 20:06 |
| grookoo | I was trying to replicate versions I use in grok to only bump the version of mechanize | 20:07 |
| grookoo | So this breaks all my testing purpose ... | 20:07 |
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| grookoo | I actually might have a workaround.. if I use a buildout cache filled with packages from grok's versions it will probably pick those up. Will try this now | 20:11 |
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| mgedmin | hm, now I'm curious: if you refer to zope.testing [extra1], and have zope.testing = X.Y.Z in your [versions] section, will it do the right thing? | 20:15 |
| mgedmin | on second thought no, I'm not curious | 20:15 |
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| grookoo | That is exactly the bug. It will not get zope.testing at all, nor will it include it in the sys.path while building the bin/test (in the case of the zc.recipe.testrunner) | 20:18 |
| grookoo | Oops.. sorry I lag a lot when using zenirc. I did not see your lost of interest. | 20:18 |
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| grookoo | Thanks a lot mgeadmin and afd__ for your pointers and advice. /me going to bed now with sweet dreams | 20:21 |
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| mcdonc | mgedmin: i know it was a long time ago but thank you for http://mg.pov.lt/blog/unicode-emails-in-python | 22:21 |
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| mgedmin | does it still apply? | 22:22 |
| mgedmin | with new versions of python? | 22:22 |
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| mcdonc | mgedmin: well at least it got me in a frame of reference, maybe not ;-) | 22:22 |
| * mgedmin never got around to filing a wishlist bug about that | 22:22 | |
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| mcdonc | at least the body cant be unicode or it still barfs under 2.5 | 22:26 |
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