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mintsauceHow do i render newlines in unicode text - I though u"Blah Blah \n" would do it....15:56
benjiI don't see why that won't work.15:58
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mgedminif you're rendering html, question is: do you want newlines, or do you want line breaks?16:01
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mintsaucemgedmin: hah - good point - line breaks16:09
mgedminI like how Pylons solves this problem16:10
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mgedminthe value itself knows whether it needs html-escaping or not16:10
mintsauceso can i render line breaks?16:11
mgedminin zope, you have to (1) manually escape HTML in your text, and (2) insert '<br />' where needed, (3) add "structure" in front of the TAL expression that inserts your text into the template16:11
mgedminas in tal:content="structure view/formatted_description"16:11
mintsaucestructure ... thats the badger, should have realised.16:14
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GrookooHi srichter! I was wondering what type of process leads to the KGS versions. Can you please help me understand?17:35
GrookooHow do you choose the versions?17:36
GrookooIs it mostly experience? Do you have tools that help you choose?17:37
* mgedmin thinks people with commit access to zope.release upgrade KGS packages in an ad-hoc manner, when they need newer versions, or when somebody asks them17:37
GrookooSo it is on a needed basis. Someone needs a new feature of some package and then simply requests a bump or even commits the bump himself?17:38
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mgedmindon't treat my answer as definitive17:41
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GrookooCertainly sounds reasonable and was also my first guess :) Learning what the process is will help me contribute such proposals. I do not want to waste people's time by sneaking in commits and/or breaking "known" processes though..17:44
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GrookooFrom the checkins on zope.release it looks like you are right.17:46
mgedminthere's also a README there17:46
mgedminI don't remember if it talks about *when* it's appropriate to update the KGS17:46
mgedminin general, bugfixes => yes, features => no17:46
GrookooAm reading it now. Apologies not having done so earlier17:47
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GrookooIt does not talk about when it is appropriate but rather gives the steps to make the changes and rules of what to check (tests). I think your concept of bugfix->yes, features->no is reasonable17:49
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GrookooThat does answer my questions. Thousand thanks again mgedmin17:50
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mintsauceI'm using a for loop, in the form: for name, child in self.context.items()19:13
mintsaucehowever, i found it was failing silently (!). Upon further investigation I found that type(child) returned <type 'zope.security._proxy._Proxy'>19:14
mintsauceWhich I suspect is my problem - but how to solve?19:15
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Count-Duckulafrom zope.proxy import removeAllProxies19:19
Count-DuckularemoveAllProxies(self.context)19:19
Count-Duckulamight work?19:20
mintsauceive been trying from zope.security.proxy import removeSecurityProxy19:20
mintsaucewill gave that a try too19:20
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mintsauceThat's got it - although, its obviously a workaround until I find out why that proxy was set in the first place.19:33
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