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| junkafarian | has z3c.extfile been removed from pypi? | 12:46 | 
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| junkafarian | is there a different index i can include in my buildout that will reference the removed packages? | 12:56 | 
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| projekt01 | junkafarian, probably z3c.extfile was never released, could be that lovely uses a release on a different server | 13:00 | 
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| projekt01 | jukart, ^^^ ? | 13:00 | 
| junkafarian | i have a legacy project that i havent tried to redeploy in months that uses it | 13:00 | 
| junkafarian | but it never used to have to be built outside buildout | 13:01 | 
| projekt01 | junkafarian, we should ask jukart or someone else from lovely systems and ask if we can release to pypi | 13:02 | 
| junkafarian | ok | 13:02 | 
| projekt01 | I don't know why this package is not available | 13:02 | 
| projekt01 | it defently should | 13:02 | 
| junkafarian | hmmm | 13:03 | 
| junkafarian | maybe it was finding the package through http://download.zope.org/distribution/ | 13:03 | 
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| projekt01 | yes, could be, but that's still bad | 13:03 | 
| projekt01 | jukart, junkafarian needs a z3c.extfile release, it's not on pypi. Do you know why? | 13:03 | 
| junkafarian | getting the same for z3c.javascript too (which is an inherited dependency) | 13:04 | 
| jukart | projekt01: there is no real reason to not have it on pypi | 13:04 | 
| jukart | it seems it's only on dowmnload.zope.org | 13:04 | 
| jukart | I guess we should release it on pypi | 13:05 | 
| junkafarian | hmm thats strange | 13:05 | 
| projekt01 | jukart, can you do it and ad some others as owners? | 13:06 | 
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| junkafarian | my buildout.cfg specifies downolad.zope... in find-links | 13:06 | 
| junkafarian | but its still not finding z3c.extfile | 13:06 | 
| jukart | projekt01: of course, will do it in the afternoon, or you do it now | 13:06 | 
| projekt01 | no problem, let me know if you don't have time to do it, I can do it tonight | 13:08 | 
| projekt01 | junkafarian, can you use an external or are you blocked without a release? | 13:08 | 
| junkafarian | just a bit puzzled why it isnt grabbing from http://download.zope.org/distribution/ | 13:09 | 
| junkafarian | it should be finding the .tar.gz's no? | 13:09 | 
| projekt01 | yes | 13:09 | 
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| lisppaste6 | junkafarian pasted "easyinstall" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/81628 | 13:11 | 
| junkafarian | projekt01: ^? | 13:11 | 
| projekt01 | I never used the zope index explicit, I guess it should find it | 13:12 | 
| junkafarian | strange that it was working a few months ago | 13:13 | 
| junkafarian | its a bog standard zopeproject template | 13:13 | 
| projekt01 | probably you should add the download url to the index attribute in buildout.cfg? | 13:13 | 
| junkafarian | i have find-links = http://download.zope.org/distribution/ | 13:14 | 
| junkafarian | in [buildout] | 13:14 | 
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| mintsauce | I'd like to set a schema default to a value the user has set elsewhere - how would I go about this? | 18:29 | 
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| mgedmin | why a schema default specifically? | 18:30 | 
| mgedmin | why not provide an initial value for the form widgets? | 18:30 | 
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| mintsauce | mgedmin: Sounds like a better idea - errr ... where would I start with that? I'm familiar with omitting and using custom widgets ... but havent changed the initial value via formlib yet ... | 18:32 | 
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| mgedmin | formlib, eh? IIRC the setUpWidgets method takes an initial={} argument | 18:33 | 
| mintsauce | (i know, i know, will move to z3cforms oneday) | 18:33 | 
| mgedmin | there are three set up methods there, aren't there? setUpWidgets, setUpDataWidgets, setUpEditWidgets | 18:33 | 
| mgedmin | IIRC at least two out of three have a value to supply initial values | 18:34 | 
| mgedmin | if not, you can always get the widget itself and use its setRenderedValue() method | 18:34 | 
| mintsauce | mgedmin: looking at the form.py now :) | 18:34 | 
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| mintsauce | Via the zope.formlib.form.FormField instance, how do i get the widget in use? | 18:57 | 
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| mgedmin | you don't | 18:58 | 
| mintsauce | I can only seem to find .custom_widget.setRenderedValue | 18:58 | 
| mintsauce | lol | 18:58 | 
| mgedmin | self.widgets = formlib.setUpWidgets(...) | 18:58 | 
| mgedmin | self.widgets['field_name'].do_stuff() | 18:58 | 
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