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mintsauceGetting a very odd error when trying to run bin/i18nextract ....17:14
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "i18nextract error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/8317217:14
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mintsaucelovely.recipe.i18n.i18nstats.main(['i18nstats', '-l', 'src/odb/locales'])18:15
mintsauceTypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, list found18:15
mintsauceHas this changed? It always used to take a list ....18:16
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VladDracbwuh... zope3 applications are really hard to reverse engineer18:44
mgedminah, the wonders of the component architecture18:44
VladDracexactly18:44
mgedminevery computer science problem can be solved by adding an additional layer of indirection, except for the problem of making code more readable18:45
VladDracI'm wondering how/where the values in a form get injected and how to expand that18:45
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VladDracand it's actually decent code.. perhaps too decent18:47
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VladDracwritten by a former zope.com employee, perhaps that's why it's even harder to comprehend :)18:47
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sidneiJ1m_: ping?18:59
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mgedminbuildout is very slow :(19:12
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* mgedmin is unable to figure out zope.testrunner again19:17
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J1m_sidnei, pong20:09
sidneihey J1m_!20:10
J1m_hey20:10
sidneiJ1m_: im trying to fix a buildout bug, but im a little bit confused :(20:10
sidneiJ1m_: basically, in offline mode 'dest' is set to None in a couple different places when calling Install().install(), and setting it to  something else the tests still pass, so i have no idea why it was set to None in the first place20:11
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sidneiJ1m_: i was wondering if you still remember the reasoning20:12
J1m_Maybe the tests are bad.  None signals offline mode to lower-level code. I'm surprised that tests pass.20:12
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J1m_In offline mode, nothing is supposed to be installed.20:14
sidneiJ1m_: the actual issue im trying to fix is a sdist in download-cache, when it gets deep into zc.buildout.easy_install, it tries to build the egg from the tarball, which works, but then it cannot install the egg because 'dest' is None there20:14
J1m_right, because you aren't supposed to install anything in offline mode.20:15
J1m_offline mode => nothing gets installed.20:16
sidneiJ1m_: uhm, so download-cache should contain eggs not source distributions?20:16
J1m_no20:16
J1m_what is it that you actually want to do.20:16
J1m_?20:16
gary_postersidnei, maybe you are lookng for install-from-cache?20:17
gary_poster(not offline)20:17
sidneigary_poster: yes, im using install_from_cache. i have a buildout extension in sdist mode inside the download-cache20:17
gary_postersidnei: and you are also using offline?20:17
sidneigary_poster: right, because there's another recipe which i don't want to run and obeys offline20:18
sidneigary_poster: so maybe it's a combination of both20:18
J1m_Does the other recipe accept an offline option?20:19
J1m_directly, rather than in buildout?20:19
sidneiJ1m_: no, it reuses buildout:offline, so maybe that's a bug20:19
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J1m_I guess you can't specify offline mode on a part-by-part basis.20:21
sidneiit would be pretty cumbersome, because there are like 10 such parts20:21
J1m_I don't know what to tell you.20:21
sidneibut it's interesting that offline mode shouldn't install anything, i didnt know that20:22
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J1m_well, perhaps that's a bug.20:23
J1m_I don'20:23
J1m_I don't see anything to that effect in the documentation.20:23
J1m_The documentation just says that offline mode means no network access.20:24
J1m_so, I suppose the behavior could be changed.20:24
sidneiback to my original issue, it felt sane that it should try to generate an egg from a sdist if it's already in the download-cache20:24
J1m_Hopefully, there's nothing depending on the current behavior.20:24
J1m_right, because there's no network access there.20:25
sidneiexactly20:25
sidneithere's an open bug about it for some time: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zc.buildout/+bug/25645820:25
sidneii got a failing test for my specific case, which is a buildout extension20:26
J1m_I'd be OK with changing the behavior if none of the existing tests fail.20:27
sidneicool!20:28
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J1m_I would implement offline mode by having the egg recipe set the index to an empty string and find-links to an empty list when calling the installer.20:28
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J1m_Or at least, that's what I'd try first.20:29
sidneiJ1m_: and set dest to the eggs directory, like it's done for the non-offline case20:29
J1m_yes20:29
J1m_depending on which recipe we're talking about.20:29
J1m_The custom recipe uses develop-eggs.20:30
sidneii see20:31
sidneigary_poster: would that cause any issue with your setup.cfg hack? or is that only used by bootstrap.py?20:32
gary_postersidnei: what hack?  blanking, sorrt20:33
gary_postersorry20:33
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sidneigary_poster: setup.cfg having find_links = ./download_cache20:35
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gary_postersidnei: oh!  yeah that's a bootstrap hack20:36
sidneigary_poster: ok, cool.20:36
gary_postersidnei: that should be no longer necessary with the new bootstrap20:36
gary_posterin my branch20:36
sidneiok20:37
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gary_poster(just pass appropriate options to bootstrap)20:37
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lisppaste6sidnei pasted "offline-build-egg-from-sdist" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/8318020:40
sidneiJ1m_: so using None for index at least doesn't break, see paste above ^^20:41
J1m_ok20:43
sidneiuhm, but install_from_cache overrides index to file:///...download-cache20:44
sidneiso that might be why it didnt break20:44
J1m_maybe20:44
sidneior not, since index = '' does say Not Found20:44
J1m_don't know -- don't have time to wade in atm. :)20:45
sidneik20:45
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CSWookiegary_poster: You still there?23:49
gary_posterCSWookie: hey, yes (though in another conversation too)23:50
CSWookiegary_poster: Well, if you remember off the top of your head, and have time, riddle me this:  Does zc.async require a queue named '' ?23:50
gary_posterA queue...yes, by default, I think that's the default queue.  (If you don't like it, just don't use the helpers that create it)23:52
CSWookiegary_poster: So if I don't create '', I won't break any expectations of the library?23:53
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gary_posterCSWookie: 90% sure that is correct.23:54
CSWookiegary_poster: Your 90% is good enough for me.23:54
gary_postercool23:55
CSWookieFor now, anyway.  I'll check for sure later.23:55
CSWookieThanks.23:55
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