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* kobold just created http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/ZTK, let's see how things will move on...12:41
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yotaffdoes anyone can point out a doc to explain how to change the traverser?16:32
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koboldyotaff: subclass zope.app.container.traversal.ContainerTraverser and register it for your interface(s)16:49
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yotaffkobold: hmm, the goal for our own traversal is that we don't use zodb17:03
yotaffz3c.traverser seems to be a right candidate but the "doc" is a bit annoying17:03
yotaffkobold: btw, thanks for your response :)17:07
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aclarkJ1m: ping19:39
J1maclark, what's up?19:42
aclarkJ1m: hi! wondering if it would be reasonable to request that buildout generate a bootstrap.py file "on the fly", for folks that can manage "easy_install zc.buildout" but that don't know where to get a hold of a bootstrap.py file. so something like buildout init --create-bootstrap-py, thoughts?19:43
J1mIf you have buildout installed, you can use the buildout bootstrap command to bootstrap a new buildout:19:44
J1mbuildout bootstrap19:44
J1mThat's how I usually bootstrap.19:44
aclarkJ1m: right but i want to create a bootstrap.py file i can check in…19:45
benjiaclark: svn cat svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zc.buildout/trunk/bootstrap/bootstrap.py > bootstrap.py19:46
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J1mbenji beat me to it -- barely19:46
aclarkJ1m: I've gotten into the habit of "bootstrapping" with buildout init myself… (not sure of exact diff betweeen bootstrap and init, actually)19:46
benjiheh19:46
aclarkJ1m:, benji right but assuming I wanted to avoid that ;-)19:47
J1minit creates an empty buildout.cf19:47
aclarkah right19:47
J1maclark, write yourself a script.19:47
J1myou can give it a really short name if you want less typing.19:48
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aclarkJ1m: ok so you don't see it as a reasonable thing to add to buildout? (i'm trying to make the "story" better for non-technical people)19:49
* aclark can always work around19:49
J1maclark, I'm always hapy to see the stpry be better for non-technical (or uninterested) people. I just don't see this as a win.19:50
J1mor  a net win19:50
aclarkJ1m: k fair enough, can't hurt to ask :-)19:51
J1mnope :)19:51
aclarkthanks /me will re-think it19:52
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koboldcan somebody with better knowledge of the KGS (and a better english, too) check out the "Updates to the KGS" paragraph in http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/ZTK? thanks!22:23
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mintsauceHaving really odd problems with a del command23:13
lisppaste6mintsauce pasted "DEL failing" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/8500623:13
mintsauceit shows as deleted in pdb, but when i refresh the view, the object is back23:13
mintsaucethought it was a _p_changed problem23:14
mintsauce(spotted missing underscore in _p_changed - its not that either...23:16
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