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hexsprite | having grief overriding a global utility that was grokked.. want to provide a mock implementation but it appears to cache the old version somehow... any ideas? | 09:43 |
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nathany | i have a ZPT i18n question that I'm hoping someone can help me with; not sure if I'm missing something or not | 19:53 |
afd__ | nathany: go ahead | 19:53 |
nathany | we have a chunk of HTML we want to translate that looks something like: | 19:53 |
nathany | The license is <a href="" tal:attributes="href license/uri">here</a>. | 19:54 |
nathany | It'd be nice to be able to assign an i18n:name to that attribute | 19:54 |
afd__ | you need to wrap it | 19:54 |
afd__ | something like: | 19:55 |
afd__ | The license is <span i18n:name="link" tal:omit-tag=""><a i18n:translate="">here</a></span> | 19:55 |
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nathany | afd__: I was sort of afraid of that :) | 19:56 |
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afd__ | yes, I don't like that either | 19:56 |
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nathany | The downside there is that it splits "here" out of the context, which some of our translators have said makes it difficult to do the translation... | 19:57 |
afd__ | use an explicit message id, instead of literal message id | 19:57 |
nathany | afd__: you mean do that so they have additional context? | 19:58 |
afd__ | this should at least flag it for the translators, and make them look for the context | 19:58 |
nathany | right | 19:58 |
nathany | ok | 19:58 |
mgedmin | people say that "here" is a really bad link text, for this and many other reasons | 19:58 |
afd__ | so, use i18n:translate="label-here" instead of i18n:translate="" | 19:58 |
nathany | mgedmin: it's not actually "here" | 19:58 |
mgedmin | <a href="..." i18n:translate="">Read our licence.</a> | 19:58 |
nathany | i was just trying to simply the example | 19:58 |
nathany | you can see the actual bit we're working with at | 19:59 |
nathany | http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/cc.license.git/tree/cc/license/formatters/templates/default_header.pt?h=template_revamp | 20:00 |
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nathany | thanks, afd__, mgedmin... very helpful to think of it this way | 20:00 |
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mgedmin | yeah, messages like 'This product is licenced under the <a href="...">GPL</a>' are impeccable from that point of view | 20:02 |
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nyo | Hey people, I just sent a proposal on zope.app.publisher refactoring to the zope-dev list, please read that :) | 22:07 |
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kobold | nyo: do you really think that such a big reorganization can happen in the zope3 tree? you are a dreamer. ;) | 22:15 |
nyo | kobold: well, I refactored zope.app.security pretty the same way before | 22:16 |
mgedmin | maybe people haven't noticed that yet :-) | 22:16 |
kobold | nyo: I really would like to see it happen, but I suppose it won't be easy have everybody agree on it | 22:16 |
* mgedmin hopes he can finally start deploying the app upgraded to zope 3.4 kgs soon | 22:16 | |
nyo | kobold: we can do some part of changes that noone have objections with and hold over controversial things | 22:18 |
nyo | kobold: but it really was not a big problem with zope.app.security | 22:19 |
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kobold | nyo: just replied to the list re: zope.container, I don't think it is a good idea to move publisher-related things there | 22:20 |
nyo | kobold: I'll answer to the list in a minute | 22:22 |
kobold | nyo: thanks for working on this | 22:23 |
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nyo | kobold: done. those "publisher-related things" are simply ZCML declarations that register the same traversers that are used for browser requests :-) | 22:29 |
kobold | nyo: yep, you are right, sorry | 22:30 |
kobold | nyo: although, I don't think those registrations belong to zope.container :) | 22:31 |
kobold | it looks weird that zope.container depends on publisher-related things, even just for registering the adapters | 22:31 |
nyo | kobold: yes, but that's a topic for zope.container refactorings, not zope.app.publisher's :) | 22:32 |
kobold | nyo: yah yah :) | 22:32 |
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