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| Count-Duckula | In all the examples I have found (Z3, TG2, Django) the content object (ZODB, ORM Mapped etc.) is passed in the page template and attributes accessed there. Is this a good idea, seems error/security prone? | 11:23 |
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| Theuni1 | Count-Duckula: within zope 3 those objects are security-wrapped and thus protected | 11:26 |
| Theuni1 | there is a distiction between two models of templating: push and pull | 11:26 |
| Theuni1 | means: you push computed template-ready data into the template or you pull data from objects into the template | 11:27 |
| Theuni1 | zpt does the latter | 11:27 |
| Count-Duckula | Theuni1: OK, probably just over thinking it, just doesn't seem right ;-) | 11:29 |
| Theuni1 | Count-Duckula: that's what the people say who do push-based templating ;) | 11:29 |
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| Count-Duckula | Theuni1: Will give it ago cheers. | 11:32 |
| Theuni1 | k | 11:32 |
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| Count-Duckula | How do you catch attribute (traversal errors) correctly if you pass the context instance into the PT? | 12:09 |
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| Theuni1 | Count-Duckula: tal:content="foo/noattribute|nothing" | 12:20 |
| Theuni1 | the pipe is used as "if attribute or keyerror is raised on the left, then execute the statement on the right" | 12:20 |
| Count-Duckula | Theuni1: Cool never seen that syntax before. What happens then the attribute causes a RDB database lookup, which errors, with an sqlalchemy error for example. | 12:22 |
| Theuni1 | that will trickle through | 12:22 |
| Theuni1 | the intention has a very limited scope (on purpose) | 12:22 |
| Theuni1 | there is a "catch all exceptions" thing when using tal:on-error="foo" | 12:22 |
| Theuni1 | however, that will also catch exceptions it shouldnt | 12:22 |
| Theuni1 | like conflict errors | 12:23 |
| Count-Duckula | Theuni1: So in that instance, it is probably better to do a call to the view which can access the attribute (forcing the call the to database) and it can catch the error? | 12:24 |
| Theuni1 | yeah | 12:24 |
| Count-Duckula | Theuni1: Thanks again, learning a lot today. | 12:24 |
| Theuni1 | many times its better to access something through the view than directly | 12:24 |
| Theuni1 | cool :) | 12:24 |
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| pyqwer | Does someone know if it's possible to register another viewlet manager in a viewlet manager? | 13:03 |
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| benji | some time during my meetings the RPM installs finally finished; I'll proceed with the deployment after lunch | 18:58 |
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