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| menesis | swampmonkey: zope 3.4 supports python2.4 and python2.5 only. | 02:32 |
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| runyaga | menesis, when is py2.6 support suppose to land? | 02:48 |
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| mcdonc | runyaga: in your DREAMS | 02:51 |
| runyaga | ok | 02:51 |
| mcdonc | no, jk, i have no idea | 02:51 |
| runyaga | candy coloured clown | 02:52 |
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| runyaga | the candy coloured clown says "in dreams" | 02:52 |
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| mcdonc | i understand | 02:52 |
| mcdonc | not really, but.. you know. | 02:53 |
| runyaga | you seen blue velvet? | 02:53 |
| runyaga | anyhoo.. i presume ztk supports py2.6 | 02:53 |
| runyaga | this magikal ztk thingie | 02:53 |
| mcdonc | it supports everything | 02:54 |
| mcdonc | things that we haven't even made yet | 02:54 |
| runyaga | ahh infinite flexibility | 02:55 |
| runyaga | i love that aspect of zope | 02:55 |
| mcdonc | yes, and did i mention its free | 02:56 |
| runyaga | i get all of that for free? | 02:56 |
| mcdonc | its free | 02:57 |
| mcdonc | it has a website | 02:57 |
| mcdonc | and a logo even | 02:57 |
| runyaga | infinite flexibility that supports all possible combinations for free? improbable! | 02:57 |
| mcdonc | mr. zope doesn't like doubters | 02:58 |
| runyaga | as a member of mr. zope's possee I suggest you move on | 02:59 |
| mcdonc | oh alright. i didn't like the logo anyway. | 02:59 |
| runyaga | how is everything going mcdonc ? snowing? | 02:59 |
| runyaga | snowing up north | 02:59 |
| mcdonc | no its warm, how is it there? | 02:59 |
| runyaga | warm | 02:59 |
| runyaga | 85 or so | 02:59 |
| mcdonc | you gettin your zope on | 03:00 |
| runyaga | i cant get enough of mr. zope | 03:00 |
| runyaga | i need to get back to my zope its getting cold | 03:00 |
| mcdonc | alright, ttys | 03:00 |
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| ignas | how do I set include_path property that is set in setup.cfg most of the time using buildout? | 12:27 |
| mgedmin | I like "most of the time", it's so very specific | 12:31 |
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| ignas | well - the setting is in setup.cfg, I *think* | 12:37 |
| ignas | hmm, where is setup.cfg? | 12:37 |
| ignas | can I have setup.cfg next to my buildout.cfg? should I? | 12:37 |
| ignas | or is it a part of the egg | 12:37 |
| mgedmin | setup.cfg goes with setup.py | 12:38 |
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| mgedmin | same directory, I assume | 12:38 |
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| mgedmin | well, since setup.py usually FAILS AND DIES A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE DEATH LIKE THE SOUND OF A THOUSAND DYING SUNS if you run it when it's not in the current working directory, I'd assume that setup.cfg is also expected to be in the current working directory | 12:38 |
| mgedmin | I think the things you can specify in setup.cfg you might be able to pass as arguments to setup.py | 12:39 |
| ignas | ok, so - how do I set these settings for one of the eggs using buildout? | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | no clue | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | eggs are the result of running setup.py, so I think it's too late to set anything up by then | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | using the term 'eggs' in the narrow *.egg sense | 12:40 |
| * ignas is trying to conver the instruction - "download the egg, extract it, fix it's setup.cfg, install it" | 12:41 | |
| ignas | into buildouteese | 12:41 |
| mgedmin | is setup.cfg something to be modified by people who install packages? | 12:43 |
| ignas | the "real problem" is psycopg2 in buildout on a mac | 12:43 |
| mgedmin | I though it was something to be modified by people who build packages | 12:43 |
| mgedmin | the mx.DateTime brain damage? | 12:43 |
| * mgedmin encountered it today | 12:43 | |
| ignas | the datetime is on ubuntu | 12:43 |
| mgedmin | psycooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopg2!!!! | 12:43 |
| ignas | but yeah, I still voodoo around the datetime | 12:44 |
| ignas | something like sudo apt-get build-dep python-psycopg2 && sudo apt-remove python-egenix-mx-base-dev | 12:44 |
| ignas | which kind of works, but doesn't sometimes | 12:45 |
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| pyqwer | Hi, does someone have a hint to do the following: Make it possible to shut down a site to a "maintenance" mode, where all requests to the site object (and all other objects/views in it's hierarchy) are redirected to some maintenance page? | 13:44 |
| pyqwer | I thought about some tricks with the traverser, but maybe there's a simple way? | 13:45 |
| ignas | apache rewrite rule!? | 13:46 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Yes, possible, but I'd like to be able to shut to this maintenance mode via the Zope instance itself. | 13:47 |
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| ignas | one custom traverser on the site level should be enough then | 13:48 |
| pyqwer | ignas: That's what I thought, but it seems not to be that simple to implement it. | 13:49 |
| ignas | really? a traverser that returns "itself" if "maintainance" is set | 13:49 |
| ignas | or calls out to superclass if it's not | 13:50 |
| ignas | is one way to do it | 13:50 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Theoretically, yes, but this easily leads to recursive redirects. | 13:50 |
| ignas | the other way is - eating traversal stack isntead of recursion | 13:50 |
| ignas | nope it does not lead to recursive redirects | 13:50 |
| pyqwer | For instance, I have pictures/CSS in my site as views, which are needed in the maintenance page. | 13:50 |
| ignas | you do not redirect | 13:50 |
| ignas | you return an object with a maintainance view at the end | 13:51 |
| ignas | oh | 13:51 |
| ignas | so you don't want to redirect "everything" | 13:51 |
| ignas | but only "something" | 13:51 |
| pyqwer | yes, right. | 13:52 |
| ignas | so you will have to mark all the "something" somehow | 13:52 |
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| ignas | or mark all the "other_thing" somehow | 13:52 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Ah, "mark" is a good hint. So I could e.g. let them implement some marker interface. | 13:52 |
| ignas | yeah, probably would work | 13:53 |
| ignas | or maybe do it using skins | 13:53 |
| pyqwer | ignas: How would that help? | 13:53 |
| ignas | can'e recall whether it's "context, request" or "request, context" | 13:53 |
| ignas | can you remind me? | 13:53 |
| yvl | context, request | 13:53 |
| ignas | argh, in that case IFoo, IBrowserRequest will win out against Interface, IMyLayer | 13:54 |
| ignas | so yeah, you can't use a skin | 13:54 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Hmmm, but maybe a skin will do it, too. Because I simply don't display the content in the surrounding template. | 13:55 |
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| ignas | maybe, you know more about your code ;) | 13:55 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Yes, hopefully ;-) Thanks for your ideas! | 13:56 |
| ignas | so you either do some traversal magic, provide some skin on the request in the "site traverser" if maintainance is on | 13:56 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Exactly. | 13:56 |
| ignas | or override some adapter/view when you click "enable" | 13:56 |
| ignas | for the maintainance mode | 13:56 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Also a good idea. | 13:56 |
| ignas | like install a view for all "IMaintained" | 13:57 |
| ignas | that redirects | 13:57 |
| ignas | (not sure how to deal with "names" for your views though) | 13:57 |
| pyqwer | ignas: Hmmm... | 13:58 |
| ignas | i mean - there are 2 places to plug in | 13:58 |
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| ignas | traversal | 13:58 |
| ignas | and queryAdapter((context, request), name="foo.html") | 13:58 |
| pyqwer | Yes. | 13:59 |
| ignas | the "name" part complicates the view lookup part IIRC | 13:59 |
| pyqwer | True. | 13:59 |
| ignas | or does it, can't recall whether you can register an adapter for "all" the names | 13:59 |
| ignas | but I am pretty sure zope tries traversing into a name before view lookup | 14:00 |
| pyqwer | ignas: I think so, too. | 14:00 |
| pyqwer | The name has precedence. | 14:00 |
| ignas | so just plain traverser for all IMaintained that always allows traversal should intercept it | 14:00 |
| pyqwer | right. | 14:00 |
| ignas | meh, haven | 14:01 |
| ignas | haven't looked at the code for 5 months ;) | 14:01 |
| ignas | is getting all hazy | 14:01 |
| ignas | Zope3 http publisher code that is | 14:01 |
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| mgedmin | pyqwer, I still think you'd better implement it with apache | 15:13 |
| mgedmin | usually you need to restart Zope to do upgrades | 15:14 |
| mgedmin | during that time any zope-built maintenance page won't work | 15:14 |
| mgedmin | sure, maybe build a Zope UI for enabling/disabling maintenance mode | 15:14 |
| mgedmin | by, e.g. dropping a file into a directory on the file system somewhere | 15:14 |
| mgedmin | then have an apache rewritecond check the existence of that file | 15:14 |
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| pyqwer | mgedmin: Thanks for feedback, I'll consider that. | 15:31 |
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