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J1msrichter, ayt?17:35
J1mTheuni1, ?17:35
Theuni1J1m: semi pong17:36
srichterJ1m: havingapresentationnow17:36
srichterbut should bedoneinanhour17:36
J1mI need to make a bug fix release of zope.security17:36
J1mdid we ever settle on a process for testing ZTK KGS package updates?17:36
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srichterno17:36
J1mdang17:37
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ChrisWbenji: ping?17:45
benji'sup17:45
ChrisWany reason you don't just return the manuel.testing.TestSuite in http://packages.python.org/manuel/#using-zope-testing ?17:45
ChrisWalso, any chance of an API reference anyway?17:46
benjibecause that example assumes you're creating a suite already and adding other tests to it17:47
ChrisWah, I see17:47
ChrisWI just have a test_docs.py which is just there to test the docs17:47
benjiAPI reference?17:47
ChrisWso no probs with just returning a manuel TestSuite in there...17:48
benjinope, it should work fine17:48
ChrisWAPI reference -> something that explains *all* the options to all the bits and pieces, eg: http://packages.python.org/errorhandler/api.html17:48
ChrisW(although errorhandler is tiny...)17:48
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benjisure, there's always a chance ;)17:50
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ChrisWtotal fail, I see the discussion started in here :-)18:09
ChrisWhmm, so it's a shame that code block output is ignored in manuel :-(18:09
benjiwhy's that?18:09
ChrisWis the idea to have big lumps of code in the code block and then where you want ot see output use a normal >>> section and use the doctest Manuel?18:09
benjiright18:10
ChrisWfair enough :-)18:10
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ChrisWwill variables created in a code block be available in a following doctest block?18:11
benjiyep18:11
ChrisWcool :-)18:12
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ChrisWfilenames passed to testsuite, where are they relative to?18:12
ChrisWlooks like relative to the module containing the tests, right?18:13
benjiyep, that should be the same behavior as doctest18:14
ChrisWoh well, *glob(join(dirname(__file__),pardir,pardir,'docs','*.txt')) it is then :-S18:14
* mgedmin shuts his eyes before he goes blind18:14
ChrisWbetter suggestions welcome :-S18:16
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mgedminI've been known to do things like that in my test_all.py files18:16
mgedminalthough I spell ", " with a space18:17
mgedminlike Guido indented it to be spelt18:17
ChrisWhurm, doctest doesn't capture the output of stderr :-(18:38
ChrisWhttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/149805/18:39
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ChrisWbenji: is that a Manuel thing or does normal doctest not capture stderr either?18:40
benjiI don't recall for certain, but I'm pretty sure doctest lets stderr through too18:41
ChrisWah well, I guess my use case is fairly vomitous18:42
benjiand since Manuel uses doctest as a library to execute doctests, normally you'll get the same behavior from a doctest in one or the other18:42
ChrisWI guess I need to find what to put in the >>> section that does what I want...18:43
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ChrisWaha18:44
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ChrisWis there any way not to have blank lines turned in <BLANKLINE> with doctests?18:54
benjinot that I'm aware of; I've considered different ways to do that, but haven't come up with anything good yet18:54
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ChrisWdammit22:21
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Theuni1?22:51
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