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| mintsauce | When I 'raise UserError' what view template is called? | 12:06 |
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| mgedmin | the one registered for it... | 12:08 |
| mgedmin | sorry, I can't remember | 12:08 |
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| mgedmin | recursively grep zcml files in your omelette directory for UserError | 12:08 |
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| mintsauce | Does UserError use a specific interface? As in system errors use zope.interface.common.interfaces.IException | 12:50 |
| mgedmin | I dunno, why don't you look up UserError and see if it implements anything | 12:51 |
| mgedmin | IUserError is possible | 12:51 |
| mgedmin | but you can register views on classes directly | 12:51 |
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| lisppaste6 | mintsauce pasted "IUserError Template" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/90223 | 13:19 |
| mintsauce | Tried the above, but doesn't seem to be overriding the default template | 13:19 |
| mgedmin | lemmesee, I successfully overrode the UserError view in one project | 13:22 |
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| mgedmin | mintsauce, http://pastie.org/695248 | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | I usually put my templates in the class definition rather than in ZCML | 13:24 |
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| mintsauce | Hmmm ... no luck, even putting a pdb in the class definition doesn't work, so it looks like im not 'intercepting' the error.... | 13:29 |
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| mintsauce | Doh | 14:30 |
| mintsauce | mgedmin: Got it working thanks (embarrassing mistake that I won't go into stopped the zcml being called). | 14:31 |
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| mgedmin | zope is like that often :/ | 14:48 |
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| vaab | hi all | 17:25 |
| vaab | About features in zope.testing, I am wondering why there is a test_setup/test_teardown function as it seems that they are not called in all zope.testing code nor implemented in any provided feature. This is also the case for layer_teardown | 17:25 |
| vaab | Also, the fact that features are included in a hard coded manner is quite puzzling: third party IFeatures object cannot be plugged in. It seems to me that modularity is half implemented, or I missed something. | 17:26 |
| vaab | What is the positioning/policy of the zope.testing team on these topics ? | 17:26 |
| vaab | If I provided patch to load dynamically IFeatures, would it be accepted ? Has this been already discussed ? | 17:26 |
| ignas | zope.testing team :D | 17:27 |
| vaab | okay, I see ;) | 17:27 |
| ignas | features do not exist, because no one implemented them ;) it's their natural state | 17:27 |
| ignas | so if you would write some kind of plugability mechanism | 17:28 |
| ignas | it would probably get accepted | 17:28 |
| ignas | unless there will be no one to accept it ;) | 17:28 |
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| ignas | I think zope.testing is using the python unittest model of extensibility | 17:28 |
| ignas | inherit + override | 17:29 |
| vaab | Well no, IFeature is defined ... but there loading is hardcoded. And zope.testing seems quite well written and thought with modularity in mind... | 17:29 |
| vaab | s/there/their/ | 17:29 |
| vaab | So I'm in position to write a new IFeature, but I'll can't use it without patching zope.testing... | 17:31 |
| ignas | as for I Feature | 17:31 |
| ignas | won't it require ZCA being enabled to work? | 17:31 |
| ignas | at the moment most of the steps are ZCA/zcml free | 17:31 |
| ignas | making me have a zcml just to use zope.testing would break a lot of usecases | 17:32 |
| ignas | I am using zope.testing in my pylons and twisted projects for example | 17:32 |
| vaab | well, that's true (for ZCA)... but aren't we in *zope*.testing ? I didn't know ZCA was to avoid... | 17:33 |
| ignas | also - you would want to isolate the components you need for testing from the application specific components that get registered during test setup | 17:33 |
| ignas | well - you are not passing zcml file to bin/test, are you? | 17:33 |
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| ignas | zope.conf is not using component architecture too, because it is the component that is used to load the config that tells which zcml should be loaded ;) | 17:34 |
| vaab | zope.interface is used... this is nearly ZCA (come on ;)... ) | 17:34 |
| mcdonc | the nose testrunner is actually quite nice, ftr | 17:34 |
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| ignas | zope.interface can be useful | 17:34 |
| vaab | no zcml | 17:34 |
| ignas | you can use it | 17:34 |
| mcdonc | esp. if you develop your packages for the purpose of being able to do "python setup.py test" | 17:34 |
| ignas | but provideAdapter(IFeature) is not a good idea i'd say... | 17:34 |
| ignas | I think i used setuptools entry points when I needed plugins that get loaded before zope adapters are available | 17:35 |
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| vaab | mcdonc: we are using buildout | 17:35 |
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| mcdonc | us too | 17:35 |
| mcdonc | in such cases we actually put a script in the package itself | 17:36 |
| mcdonc | that just does | 17:36 |
| ignas | an entry point [zope.testing.feature] that has components that implement IFeature might make a lot of sense | 17:36 |
| mcdonc | ../../bin/nosetests $* | 17:36 |
| ignas | but that's just what I would do ;) | 17:36 |
| ignas | you can try doing it the way twisted does | 17:36 |
| ignas | src/zope/testing/plugins/plugin1.py | 17:37 |
| ignas | (twisted has src/twisted/plugins) | 17:37 |
| ignas | there is no __init__.py in twisted directory | 17:37 |
| ignas | so it does not clash with actual twisted egg | 17:37 |
| vaab | ignas: indeed, an entry point could be a good idea | 17:37 |
| ignas | plugins = list(pkg_resources.iter_entry_points('zope.testing.plugin')) | 17:40 |
| vaab | I'll probably provide a first patch that will call test_setup/teardown and layer_teardown (that are defined in IFeature, but never called...) | 17:40 |
| ignas | [entry.load().do_stuff() for entry in plugins] | 17:40 |
| vaab | ignas: thx, that's clearer for me... | 17:40 |
| vaab | I will study this, and eventually provide a patch PoC | 17:43 |
| ignas | cool :) can you implement http://pypi.python.org/pypi/unittest-xml-reporting/1.0.3 integration along the way ? :D | 17:45 |
| vaab | I will take a look... | 17:48 |
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| nathany | i have a bone-headed zodb question | 19:23 |
| nathany | (er, zope3+zodb) | 19:23 |
| nathany | how do i set the connection pool_size for my ZODB instance? | 19:23 |
| nathany | nevermind, found it | 19:31 |
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| vaab | implemented the feature loading via entry_points, but I have some issues as features seems to be loaded in a specific order... how should I tackle this problem ? (I have several solution in minds, but none of them seem clean enough to my view). | 20:10 |
| vaab | (I'm currently using entry_points keys that start with a number: (ie: 10_selftest = zope.testing.testrunner.selftest:SelfTest ) | 20:13 |
| vaab | these are automatically sorted by setuptools I guess... | 20:20 |
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| vaab | is there a zope.testing commiter in here having 2sec to kill ? I've corrected a bug in tests, the patch is very small. Or if anyone could tell me were could I ship my patch for review/integration ? | 20:37 |
| benji | vaab: I'll take a look; you can pastebin it or email me at benji@zope.com | 20:38 |
| vaab | http://pastebin.com/m106f2058 | 20:38 |
| benji | heh, you fixed a test that I commented out | 20:39 |
| vaab | ;) is that bad ? | 20:39 |
| benji | no, it's good | 20:40 |
| benji | my lazyness was rewarded ;) | 20:40 |
| vaab | the previous test was failing with my new feature | 20:40 |
| benji | I'll commit the change after the tests run | 20:40 |
| vaab | so I had to look a bit what was happening... | 20:40 |
| vaab | benji: thx | 20:40 |
| benji | no problem | 20:42 |
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| vaab | benji: I have a bigger patch that implements the feature loading through setuptools entry_points... where could I ship it for discussion ? | 20:42 |
| benji | the zope-dev mailing list would be the right place for that | 20:42 |
| vaab | benji: ok, thx for the info | 20:45 |
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| vaab | benji: how is my little patch getting along ? | 21:08 |
| benji | it caused me to realize that my ssh config on my new ubuntu install is totally messed up | 21:09 |
| benji | I have to fix that before I can commit the change | 21:10 |
| vaab | you've upgraded to karmic | 21:12 |
| vaab | ? | 21:12 |
| benji | yep | 21:12 |
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| benji | ok, vaab, the fix has been comitted to the trunk | 21:28 |
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| vaab | benji: ok, thx for your attention and your time ! | 21:29 |
| benji | glad to help | 21:36 |
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