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| mgedmin | upgrading a single package (zope.sendmail) is painful | 17:31 |
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| mgedmin | when you use the last released KGS (3.4.0) | 17:31 |
| mcdonc | mgedmin: due to dependencies? | 17:33 |
| mgedmin | yep | 17:33 |
| mcdonc | it doesnt say why it wants zope.component > 3.8.0 | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | buildout, run, stare at incomprehensible error, try to figure out what other package needs to be upgraded, repeat | 17:35 |
| mcdonc | i might try to temporarily remove >=3.8.0 from its setup.py | 17:35 |
| mcdonc | at that point it should install but might not run | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | it's a thought | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | I want to compile a list of forced dependencies now | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | out of morbid curiosity | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | bless the guy who introduced the convention of including changelogs in PyPI's long_description | 17:37 |
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| mcdonc | Depend on zope.component >= 3.8.0, which supports the new semantic of zope.component.zcml.proxify needed by zope.sendmail.zcml. | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | now which zope.app.form is compatible with zope.component 3.8.0? | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | ah, 3.7.2 | 17:39 |
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| mgedmin | is there a tool to list which eggs do not have version pins in my buildout.cfg? | 17:49 |
| flox | I use a one-line for that | 17:50 |
| flox | one-liner | 17:50 |
| * mgedmin headdesks | 17:50 | |
| mgedmin | zope.container-3.10.0 + zope.app.publisher-3.6.1 = boom! | 17:50 |
| flox | mgedmin: "bin/buildout -Nov |sed -n s,^Picked:.,#,p |sort -u" | 17:51 |
| mgedmin | which one is supposed to define the xmlrpc view for IItemContainer ? | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | which one do I upgrade? | 17:52 |
| mgedmin | ah, upgrade z.a.publisher to 3.9.0 | 17:53 |
| mgedmin | flox, that operation is not read-only :( | 17:53 |
| flox | mgedmin: with "-No" you do not upgrade | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | yes, but I re-create all the files under bin/ etc. | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | nuke parts | 17:54 |
| mgedmin | things like that | 17:54 |
| flox | sure... | 17:54 |
| flox | I keep the "not pinned" eggs under version control | 17:55 |
| flox | I "cat" the output of the command to some "version.cfg" | 17:55 |
| flox | it depends how you built your project. Normally it should "refresh" but not remove your data | 17:56 |
| mgedmin | zope.traversing-3.7.1 + zope.location-3.7.0 = *boom* | 17:56 |
| * mgedmin headdesks some more | 17:56 | |
| flox | there's a lot of pain when you try to upgrade a single zope.something package ... | 17:57 |
| mgedmin | solution: upgrade zope.traversing to 3.8.0 | 17:58 |
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| flox | zope.sendmail is pinned to 3.6.0, here | 17:59 |
| flox | which version you try to install? | 17:59 |
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| mgedmin | 3.7.1 | 17:59 |
| mgedmin | on top of the zope 3.4 kgs | 17:59 |
| flox | :( | 18:00 |
| flox | I pinned the version, because it was too much painful to upgrade | 18:00 |
| mgedmin | yep | 18:00 |
| mgedmin | I've half a mind to resurrect the KGSes and work towards assembling a 3.5 KGS | 18:01 |
| flox | or you may try to "diff -r" both sendmail versions | 18:01 |
| flox | and merge just the part you need | 18:01 |
| flox | (ok, it's not very clean) | 18:02 |
| mgedmin | you missed the part about morbid curiosity, I think | 18:02 |
| flox | ... I tried it before | 18:02 |
| flox | but you need to upgrade almost all the KGS | 18:02 |
| mgedmin | for how long before you gave up? | 18:02 |
| flox | it was 2 months ago, I guess | 18:03 |
| flox | when it tried to upgrade to 3.6.1... I left after the 4th package requirement or sth like that | 18:04 |
| flox | (it is on a grok buildout) | 18:04 |
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| flox | mgedmin: it's time to upgrade http://bluebream.zope.org/ | 18:09 |
| mgedmin | how do you mean? | 18:09 |
| flox | it's built on top of the latest ZTK, so it should support newest third-party eggs | 18:10 |
| mgedmin | isn't it vapourware at this point? | 18:12 |
| mgedmin | e.g. the download link points to # | 18:12 |
| flox | easy_install bluebream install the Paster templates | 18:12 |
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| mgedmin | hmm | 18:13 |
| flox | I just installed it this afternoon | 18:14 |
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| agroszer | hi mgedmin | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | o/ | 18:15 |
| agroszer | you mind giving me pypi access to zope.app.http ? | 18:15 |
| agroszer | my pypi username is agroszer | 18:15 |
| mgedmin | why not ask srichter to run his magic script and give you rights to all zope packages? | 18:15 |
| agroszer | in case he is listening... | 18:16 |
| srichter | mgedmin: not possible anymore :-( | 18:16 |
| agroszer | hey | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | oh? | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | why not? | 18:16 |
| agroszer | dooh | 18:16 |
| srichter | they shortened the list on pypi | 18:16 |
| mgedmin | oh, you used to screen-scrape? | 18:16 |
| agroszer | nice | 18:16 |
| srichter | I cannot get a full list of my packages anymore | 18:16 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: yeah, use testbrowser | 18:16 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: yeah, I use testbrowser | 18:17 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: if someone tells me a way to get a list of all my packages via one of the PyPI mechanisms, I will gladly adjust the code and make agroszer all powerful | 18:18 |
| mgedmin | zope.app.folder-3.4.0 + zope.site-3.8.0 = boom! | 18:18 |
| srichter | that's the two packages he needs | 18:18 |
| srichter | (I can list those manually) | 18:18 |
| agroszer | naah | 18:18 |
| mgedmin | no, those are the ones that give me pain now | 18:18 |
| agroszer | zope.app.http | 18:18 |
| agroszer | I need that one | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | I added it, agroszer | 18:19 |
| mgedmin | just now | 18:19 |
| agroszer | thx! | 18:19 |
| srichter | give me a list of all packages you want separated by space :-) | 18:19 |
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| agroszer | thanks that one is just fine | 18:19 |
| srichter | agroszer: you are alreay an owner of that package | 18:20 |
| mgedmin | grr reinventing the wheel | 18:20 |
| mgedmin | what python egg needs is a Debian-style "Conflicts:" | 18:20 |
| srichter | mgedmin: yep, RPM has that too | 18:20 |
| mgedmin | srichter, because I added him 30 seconds ago ;) | 18:20 |
| agroszer | yah | 18:21 |
| srichter | LOL | 18:21 |
| agroszer | nm | 18:21 |
| mgedmin | would be nice if http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPiXmlRpc included a method for "list packages owned by $user" | 18:22 |
| srichter | yep | 18:23 |
| srichter | in fact all of the user management should be exposed, so you can use XML-RPC instead of screen scraping | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | the PyPI developers respond to bugs filed in sourceforge, hint, hint | 18:24 |
| srichter | especially sicne there is no group management, sigh | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | although any significant chunk of development would probably only get in if you supply a patch ... | 18:24 |
| mgedmin | I got the impression they lack developer time/manpower | 18:24 |
| srichter | yeah, probably | 18:25 |
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| mgedmin | uh oh "view name AddFieldIndex not found" | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | in zope.app.catalog-3.5.1's configure.zcml | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | now which of those 21 new version pins I was forced to painfully add one-by-one made AddFieldIndex disappear? | 18:28 |
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| mgedmin | seriously, what's happening there? | 18:34 |
| mgedmin | zope.app.catalog has <addform name="AddFieldIndex" ...> followed by <addMenuItem view="AddFieldIndex" ...> | 18:34 |
| mgedmin | and it the second one barfs view name AddFieldIndex not found | 18:34 |
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| mgedmin | it's impossible to use zope.sendmail 3.7.1 with the 3.4 kgs | 18:37 |
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| afd_ | maybe a new kgs needs to be created. I wonder if ZTK has one... | 18:38 |
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