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| kobold | is there a reason why the zope.component's zcml directives use getGlobalSiteManager instead of getSiteManager to perform the registrations of the components? | 11:23 |
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| kobold | it they used getSiteManager, it'd be possible to hook it to use a different registry than the global one | 11:24 |
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| mgedmin | kobold, I think people do that already -- use zcml to register components for different registries | 11:30 |
| mgedmin | I don't know how they do that | 11:30 |
| kobold | mgedmin: repoze.bfg ships its own zcml directives, for example :) | 11:31 |
| kobold | and I do the same in our own company-specific framework | 11:31 |
| mgedmin | zcml is processed by (1) parsing, (2) collecting callbacks into a huge list, (3) resolving conflicts and (4) calling callbacks in order | 11:31 |
| mgedmin | I'm sure step (3) will put a big spike into your grand plan | 11:32 |
| kobold | the conflicts are handled without the registry, though | 11:32 |
| kobold | using discriminators | 11:32 |
| kobold | so I don't see how step 3 is related to the global registry | 11:32 |
| kobold | getSiteManager returns the global registry too, unless you hook it (which is what I want to do, indeed) | 11:33 |
| kobold | so I see no reason to use getGlobalSiteManager instead of getSiteManager | 11:33 |
| mgedmin | precisely: an adapter providing IFoo globally will conflict with an adapter providing IFoo in your custom registry, while it really shouldn't | 11:39 |
| mgedmin | or they won't conflict but one will silently override the other | 11:39 |
| mgedmin | and you'll end up one adapter shy in one of the registries | 11:39 |
| mgedmin | also, how are you going to override the site returned by getGlobalSiteManager? | 11:39 |
| kobold | mgedmin: I don't override it, I always use getSiteManager | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | sorry | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | also, how are you going to override the site returned by getSiteManager? | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | by inserting setSite calls into the ZCML handler callback list? | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | you'll need two ZCML directives then | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | one to set it, one to reset it | 11:40 |
| kobold | mgedmin: I don't use zope | 11:40 |
| mgedmin | ah | 11:40 |
| kobold | mgedmin: I use an internal framework similar to repoze.bfg | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | wait | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | this is not zope-related at all | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | it's ZCML-related | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | and you're talking about ZCML directives, aren't you? | 11:41 |
| kobold | so I have setSiteManager.sethook(...) before the load_zcml function | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | ah, override the site for the whole zcml file! | 11:41 |
| mgedmin | okay, that could work | 11:41 |
| kobold | mgedmin: it works, indeed :) | 11:41 |
| kobold | and it is in production already, I have one python process with multiple zope-ish applications | 11:41 |
| kobold | one registry per application, no global registry | 11:42 |
| kobold | but I had to reimplement the ZCML directives, because I cannot use the standard ones | 11:42 |
| kobold | because they want to register the components in the global registry, and I never use the global registry | 11:42 |
| kobold | and this sounds odd to me | 11:42 |
| * kobold is preparing an email for zope-dev | 11:43 | |
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| * kobold sent the email, let's see what others think about it | 11:48 | |
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| mgedmin | Theuni1, I'm writing a blog post about yesterday's meeting | 12:18 |
| mgedmin | is the date and time set for the next one? | 12:19 |
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| Theuni1 | mgedmin: it's next week tuesday, same time, same place | 12:23 |
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| mgedmin | Theuni1, want to review my post before I publish? http://pastie.org/851417 | 12:31 |
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| Theuni1 | I'm always scared of "ain't dead yet" messages ;) | 12:37 |
| Theuni1 | that sounds like we're working on that ;)( | 12:37 |
| mgedmin | the fragmentation bit could also be a bit scary | 12:40 |
| mgedmin | I'm unsure if I should leave that or include it out | 12:40 |
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| goschtl | Hi is it possible to display "field error message" for the invariant errors in z3c.form? | 16:04 |
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