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jmlhow do I get more information on why buildout can't find zope.testing 3.9.2?13:27
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mgedminbin/buildout -v -v -v13:29
jml  Getting distribution for 'zope.testing==3.9.2'.13:31
jmlError: Couldn't find a distribution for 'zope.testing==3.9.2'.13:31
jmlinformative!13:31
mgedminyeah, you've gotta love setuptools...13:33
mgedminI'm guessing additional -v levels don't help?13:33
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jmlno13:36
jmlstrace doesn't even help very much, except to indicate that pypi isn't being consulted13:36
jmlhm13:37
jmlif I make clean and then run bootstrap, I get "Link to http://pypi.python.org/simple/zc.buildout/ ***BLOCKED*** by --allow-hosts"13:37
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mgedminah!13:38
mgedmininteresting13:38
mgedmin~/.pydistutils.cfg?13:38
mgedmin~/.buildout/default.cfg?13:38
gary_posterjml, pastebin your buildout.cfg.  I bet you have a constraint in there that you don't need13:39
mgedminI don't know if there are environment variables for influencing setuptools/easy_install13:39
mgedminI assume that if you had something like offline = true in your buildout.cfg, you'd notice, right?13:39
jmlgary_poster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/396116/13:39
gary_posterjml: rip out13:40
gary_posterinstall-from-cache = true13:40
jmlgary_poster, ah hah13:40
jmlgary_poster, that seems to work13:40
mgedminthat is a deceptively mildly named option that is13:40
gary_posterheh13:40
jmlmgedmin, agreed.13:41
* mgedmin suggests renaming it to install-from-cache-only13:41
gary_postermakes sense to me13:42
gary_posterthough backwards compatibility suggests it would have to be both13:42
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jmlgary_poster, mgedmin: thanks!13:47
gary_postersure.  that cfg file looked vaguely familiar ;-)13:48
jmlheh heh13:48
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jmlis this the best place to get buildout help on IRC?20:57
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koboldjml: try with explicit questions :)21:05
jmlkobold, that was an explicit question, I thought.21:06
jmlstill,21:07
jmlI've got a package that I want to manage with buildout. It's got Python code in it but it's not primarily a Python package21:07
jmlit's built with configure; make; make install21:07
jmlI've found the zc.recipe.cmmi thing21:07
jmland have figured out enough of it to get the package built into the parts/ directory of my checkout21:08
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jmlhowever, I want to get the Python bits into the Python path used by the various scripts & daemons of the application21:08
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jmlbut I don't know how to do that.21:09
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koboldjml: are the scripts and daemons installed by make install or something like that?21:09
koboldor are they console scripts installed from the python bits?21:10
jmlkobold, no, they are generally run from a source checkout w/ a buildout-built ./bin/py21:10
koboldjml: are the python bits source packages (eg. with setup.py)?21:11
jmlkobold, no.21:11
koboldjml: well, if it is not too complex (eg. too many python packages), I'd write a simple setup.py and threat them as a python package21:12
koboldtoo many python modules, I meant21:12
jmlkobold, and try to get that upstream?21:12
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koboldyeah, ideally21:12
jmlwell, the alternative is maintaining a fork, right?21:12
jmlcrap. I've got to go catch my train21:13
koboldjml: I suppose a single setup.py in the root of the package can do what you want21:13
jmlkobold, thanks for the help.21:13
koboldjml: you are welcome21:13
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koboldJ1m: hello, sorry for the disturb; I sent you an e-mail regarding a caching bug in bobo on the 27th of February... could you have a look at it?21:18
koboldFTR: http://dpaste.com/172620/21:20
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