IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2010-04-01

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yrikhello10:47
yriki have a stupid question10:47
yrikit's for Zope 3.410:47
yrikWhere I need to place exist python packages in zope installation folder?10:48
yrikOr, where I can read about it?10:48
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ccomb1I've raised the timeout for the buildout Command (it takes 30min!), now it's green http://buildbot.afpy.org/ztk_trunks/waterfall12:16
koboldyrik: lib/python in your zope instance, I suppose12:21
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joshuHi13:16
joshuI have a question regarding zope3's adapters.. a rather basic question I'm afraid13:16
yrik_where  can I see what version of Zope based site?13:17
joshuIs this a good place to ask?13:17
joshuMy question is whether adapters automatically delegate calls that they do not implement, but the adaptee does implement, to the adaptee13:17
joshuSo that the adapter can be used in place of the adaptee in places where the adaptee is expected13:18
koboldjoshu: there is no automatic adaption, if this is your question13:18
joshuIt is mentioned on the twisted docs that this is how it works, however not anywhere within  the zope docs13:18
koboldjoshu: frameworks can do it for you, though (eg. form libraries)13:18
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joshuNo, if I explicitly adapt, does the adapter proxy callables to the adaptee?13:19
koboldjoshu: if you adapt, you get the adapter, which can do whatever it want with the adaptee (which is its context)13:20
koboldjoshu: adapter = ISomething(obj)13:21
koboldjoshu: adapter is a new object which receives `obj' as "context"13:21
joshukobold: So if a method implemented by the adaptee, 'foo()' and the adapter is instantiated and called adapter.foo() I would need to explictly map adapter.foo to adaptee.foo?13:21
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joshuFrom twisted docs "Note that an Adapter must explicitly delegate any method calls it does not wish to modify to the original, otherwise the Adapter cannot be used in places where the original is expected."13:21
koboldjoshu: yes13:21
koboldjoshu: exactly13:22
joshuok, so it doesn't automatically proxy callables13:22
koboldjoshu: no, it doesnot13:22
joshuThanks very much - I had really wanted to get to the bottom of that and it makes sense13:22
koboldjoshu: you're welcome13:22
joshukobold: Have a good day - zca rocks btw.. but you know that13:23
koboldjoshu: zca works great, but miss good documentation13:23
joshukobold: yes - hence me needing to ask this here :-)13:23
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kobold:)13:24
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yrik113:50
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yrikhello16:34
yrikis folder etc present Zope 3.4 site content?16:35
yrikanother word , where i need no place my app-configure.zcml ?16:35
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ccomb1yrik: you should find a toplevel site.zcml file16:54
ccomb1this file includes all the other ones16:54
yrikok16:54
ccomb1and typically you should have a configure.zcml included in your package16:54
yrikis there big different between mkzopeinctance and zopeproject??16:56
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yrikit's make me crazy16:57
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yrikis there any different between mkzopeinctance and zopeproject??17:36
ccomb1yrik: zopeproject was the new Template-based approach17:38
ccomb1but you should really look at BlueBream17:38
ccomb1http://bluebream.zope.org17:39
ccomb1yrik: BlueBream 1.0 corresponds to Zope 3.517:39
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grahalhow can I add a constraint in the container level? I want to accept or not a object checking if a certain data of this object exists or not in other objects that already exist in this container18:24
grahalin short, garantee that some objects attributes data are unique inside a container18:26
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