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J1mI really miss post-mortem debugging of tests.17:53
benjiWhere did it go?17:54
J1mIt seems to have been broken in various ways for a while now.17:54
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* J1m starts trying old versions of the test runner...17:55
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J1mI do happen to be using manuel atm.17:55
J1mI don't know if that has anything to do with it.17:56
mgedmincould it have been lost with the zope.testing.doctest -> doctest migration?17:56
J1mlikely17:56
mgedminI'm not using manuel, but bin/test -D drops me into a useless 'raise DocTestFailure()'17:56
benjiI think it worked the last time I tried it with Manuel.17:56
J1mYeah, I've seen that.17:56
J1mIn the test I'm working on now, when I use -D, the test appears to pass.17:57
J1mI'm pretty sure the error is being swallowed.17:57
J1mas the test shouldn't pass. :)17:57
J1m(And it shouldn't fail in the way it is failing wo -D)17:58
benjiJ1m: hmm, I suspect Manuel is the culprit17:58
J1mdang17:58
benjiI think I've seen that behavior recently; I'll take a look at it tonight17:59
J1mk, thanks17:59
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J1mYeah, it doesn't seem to be zope.testing.18:02
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J1mget the same behavior with 3.4, which is pretty old.18:02
mgedminI suspect it's been brokend and fixed for more than one cycle18:03
J1mpossibly. I'm pretty sure the test runner had tests for it though.18:03
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mgedmin(evil ctrl-w binding)18:22
* mgedmin wishes for bin/test --version again18:22
J1mwhat would that do?18:24
mgedminprint the version number to stdout18:25
J1mof what?18:25
mgedminof the test runner18:25
mgedmine.g. "zope.testrunner 4.0.0b1"18:25
J1mI would like --versions then. :)18:25
mgedminwhat would what do?18:26
J1mprint out the version of python and, at least, of all the distros directly on sys.path.18:26
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mgedminthat sounds like something for bin/buildout18:27
J1mbut especially python, since I often forget what I built for last and it's tedious to look at the test script source.18:27
mgedminwoohoo! benefit from zope.testrunner being a separate package now: I can unpin it (and zc.recipe.testrunner) and use it with bluebream-1.0a5.cfg without causing doctest deprecation warnings everywhere18:28
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mgedminactually, bin/buildout --versions sounds better and better the more I think about it18:29
mgedminI want to know (a) the superset of all eggs being used, (b) their version numbers and (c) whether the version is pinned or not18:30
J1mwhat would it do? :)18:30
J1mThis is starting to sound like a children's book.18:30
mgedmintwinkle twinkle little star ...18:30
J1moh18:30
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