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VladDrachi22:37
VladDracwhat's the zope3 equivalent of something like (un)restrictedTraverse?22:37
mgedminzapi.traverse() maybe22:38
mgedminexcept zapi is kind-of-deprecated22:38
mgedminso zope.traversing.api.traverse()22:38
VladDracI'm working on old code :)22:39
mgedmindepending on how old, it may be zope.app.traversing.api.traverse()22:39
mgedminzapi was always just a bunch of re-exports22:39
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VladDracargh22:44
VladDracI ended up in security hell22:44
VladDractrying to escape from it22:44
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mgedminremoveSecurityProxy() is your friend22:46
VladDracthat may work22:54
VladDraca quote from the source I'm working on (originally not mine, but he is a former zope.com employee ;)22:54
VladDrac        # Due to zope 3 being designed by monkeys on crack.  The22:55
VladDrac        # security model is a horrible mess.22:55
mgedmin'design' is a strong word22:55
* mgedmin spent a week trying to extract some sense out of PluggableAuthentication22:55
mgedminof course ranting is easier than fixing :(22:56
VladDracwell I'm not ranting, it's just a silent cry in the source22:57
VladDracunfortunately something I have to work on now22:58
mgedminthe 'ranting' remark was directed at myself23:00
VladDracheh ok23:01
VladDracok23:12
VladDractime to inform the customer this wil take waaaaaay longer than expected23:13
VladDracok managed to work around it23:33
VladDracbypassing loads of security checks, adapters, interfaces, and so on23:33
VladDracI'm even indexing __annotations__ directly23:33
mgedminsounds like fun23:34
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