IRC log of #zope3-dev for Friday, 2011-12-16

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fdrakemcdonc: How do you deal with debugging apps running under mod_wsgi?20:29
mcdoncfdrake: i haven't done a lot of that lately but when i did it was more or less via logging; there is a way to put apache in foreground mode and use pdb but it's no fun20:31
fdrakeInteresting.  Ok, we'll have to play with that some, but perhaps not today.20:31
mgedminwhat about the WebError interactive-pdb-in-your-browser-window middleware?20:33
mcdoncthat's true, although i've never used it under mod_wsgi (because we only use mod_wsgi in production)20:33
mcdoncWebError is also not useful in multiprocess setups20:33
fdrakeHaven't heard of that one; could be interesting.20:34
* fdrake is new to mod_wsgi.20:34
mcdoncwe do most dev under e.g. paste.httpserver20:35
* mgedmin also usually debugs with plain old pdb with paster serve20:35
fdrakeI'm using Apache for SSL; we usually use simpler servers.20:40
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mgedminif view.status is a i18nmessageid Message object, does <p tal:content="view/status" /> need an i18n:translate=""?22:42
mgedminI seem to vaguelly recall a discussion that (1) it doesn't, TAL does type sniffing and translates, but (2) it should have a i18n:translate="" anyway, because the sniffing may be going away in the future22:43
mgedminbut I don't trust my memory22:43
mgedminand I don't like the silly msgid "${DYNAMIC_CONTENT}" this produces in the .pot file22:43
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