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| teratorn | in a zope3 application I understand that a skin is in effect an ordered list of _layers_. how/where is the order of the layers defined? | 01:49 |
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| teratorn | is there any tool to browse or visualize a zcml tree? | 05:31 |
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| marcellobs | Hi all, i have migrate a RelStorage from Oracle to ZODB, but the RealStorage stays in my object, can i remove this Storm class from my objects?! | 13:28 |
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| mgedmin | how can I test whether an object has its own script named 'foo', as opposed to it inheriting one via acquisition? | 14:31 |
| mgedmin | hasattr(obj.aq_base, 'foo') fails with Unauthorized | 14:32 |
| mgedmin | this is happening in a TTW Python script | 14:32 |
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| bigkevmcd | don't use TTW Python scripts... | 14:35 |
| bigkevmcd | big dirty can of horrible smelly worms | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | ah, 'foo' in obj.objectIds() works | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | bigkevmcd, I'd even say "don't use Zope 2" | 14:36 |
| bigkevmcd | yeah...well...that's a bit harder to say | 14:36 |
| mgedmin | but you know people -- "we have this perfectly fine working website, could you change just one teeny leetle thing"? | 14:37 |
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| bigkevmcd | yeah...but doing it TTW is not a clever idea | 14:39 |
| betabug | TTW scripts are fine on the level that shell scripts are fine... for hacking a quick, one-off solution together, preferably if the thing will be thrown away 20 minutes afterwards | 14:41 |
| betabug | someone entered a wrong account number in 130 objects... I don't like to correct them by hand | 14:41 |
| bigkevmcd | to do that, I'd fix it with a command line "run" script | 14:45 |
| bigkevmcd | has the advantage that I can run it through, check that it does everything, then add a commit() and run it again and let it commit the changes... | 14:46 |
| betabug | sure | 14:46 |
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| betabug | but TTW has advantages too, e.g. the user doens't need to have file system access | 14:46 |
| betabug | anyway, it's not an important matter to me | 14:46 |
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| kosh | mgedmin: the correct way to test is container.hasObject('objectyoucheckfor') that does not use inheritance and won't involve a linear scan like objectIds | 17:27 |
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| mgedmin | thanks, kosh! | 17:28 |
| kosh | not sure what version of zope that was added in but at least before 2.9 | 17:28 |
| kosh | wait I think I got the name wrong just a sec let me find the right one | 17:29 |
| kosh | never mind that is right | 17:30 |
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| mgedmin | :) | 17:32 |
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| TKtiddle | ever any need to use DTML over ZPTs? | 19:52 |
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| erTheJest | speed.. | 20:50 |
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