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| kamathln | Webdev gurus and Veterans might like answering me on this reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/bnatn/what_are_the_common_patterns_in_web_programming/ | 00:29 |
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| shen-long | whoa boy | 00:44 |
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| shen-long | trying to figure out how to turn a catalog index search into a vocabulary | 00:44 |
| shen-long | anyone done this before? | 00:45 |
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| Charlie_X | Not me but it shouldn't be too hard | 00:45 |
| shen-long | Charlie_X, trying to wrap my head around this, and my brain is exploding ;p | 00:46 |
| shen-long | don't know what it is about this one simple task | 00:46 |
| Charlie_X | What do want to be the keys in the vocabulary and what do you want to be the values? | 00:46 |
| shen-long | right now I'm using SimpleVocabulary and SimpleTerm(value='something') | 00:47 |
| shen-long | and trying to turn 'something' into a list from a catalog query on the field values of 'field' for all objects of 'this' type | 00:48 |
| shen-long | hmm | 00:48 |
| Charlie_X | You need a key to refer to your search results. I always do SimpleTerm(key, key, value) where keys must be ASCII | 00:48 |
| shen-long | ahh | 00:48 |
| shen-long | let me paste what I have so far | 00:49 |
| shen-long | everything in the ui and catalog is working like I want right now | 00:49 |
| shen-long | just need to figure out what to replace 'something' with | 00:49 |
| shen-long | I think ... | 00:49 |
| shen-long | one sec | 00:49 |
| * Charlie_X has spent more time than he would like to admit on fighting with encodings this last week | 00:49 | |
| shen-long | Charlie_X, yowch | 00:50 |
| shen-long | Charlie_X, http://pastebin.com/hHzNxuKP | 00:50 |
| shen-long | I know all the grok stuff is in the way | 00:50 |
| shen-long | but really it's just the __call__ def I'm worried about right now | 00:51 |
| shen-long | does it make sense? | 00:51 |
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| shen-long | whereas result_set = catalog[did_targets].apply('some search term') is getting the results I'm looking for in the catalog | 00:52 |
| Charlie_X | It sort of makes sense | 00:54 |
| shen-long | lol, yeah, I feel the same way ;p | 00:54 |
| shen-long | a did is a phone number | 00:54 |
| shen-long | this is going to manage a freeswitch pbx | 00:54 |
| shen-long | and I want to get a list of available targets for each did that is added | 00:55 |
| shen-long | so when a call comes in freeswitch knows what to ring | 00:55 |
| shen-long | whether it be a group, an external number, or a recording | 00:55 |
| shen-long | grok has really helped bootstrap the dev, but I've hit a brick wall when trying to handle relations | 00:56 |
| shen-long | and I think it's because I'm missing something fundamental | 00:56 |
| Charlie_X | Do you get an AttributeError | 00:56 |
| shen-long | no | 00:56 |
| shen-long | no errors now | 00:56 |
| shen-long | something shows up as the only thing available in the list | 00:56 |
| shen-long | I'm using it further down .. like so | 00:57 |
| Charlie_X | You're only putting one thing in the list. I get an error trying to construct even your example. | 00:57 |
| shen-long | http://pastebin.com/wWqu6yTW | 00:58 |
| shen-long | oh? | 00:58 |
| shen-long | well yeah, I could put a bunch of stuff in the list I'm sure | 00:59 |
| shen-long | have vnc? ;p | 00:59 |
| Charlie_X | No, mo vnc - TeamViewer - and it's pretty late in Jormany | 01:00 |
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| shen-long | ahh | 01:00 |
| shen-long | well, thanks for looking either way :) | 01:00 |
| shen-long | do you know of any packages I might look at to help understand what I'm intending to do here? | 01:00 |
| Charlie_X | If that is your registered vocabulary then it will only ever have one value | 01:01 |
| shen-long | ie, how rough would it be to make 'something' a list of returned objects from a catalog query ? | 01:01 |
| Charlie_X | hm, I learned all my stuff from Philip's truly excellent book. | 01:01 |
| shen-long | I have that book | 01:01 |
| Charlie_X | I normally make my terms in a list comprehension | 01:02 |
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| shen-long | k | 01:03 |
| shen-long | I can handle that | 01:03 |
| shen-long | just .. not sure how to get the catalog result set as anything else | 01:03 |
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| Charlie_X | terms = [SimpleTerm(key, key, value for key, value from iterable]; vocab = SimpleVocabulary(terms) | 01:03 |
| shen-long | ahh | 01:03 |
| Charlie_X | catalog.searchResults() is an interable | 01:04 |
| shen-long | ahh | 01:04 |
| shen-long | so | 01:04 |
| shen-long | pseudocode wise ... | 01:04 |
| Charlie_X | iterable, even | 01:04 |
| Charlie_X | Anyone know how the footy went this evening? | 01:04 |
| shen-long | terms = [SimpleTerm(key, mykeytype, v for k, v ..... ??? | 01:05 |
| shen-long | vocab = SimpleVocabulary(terms) | 01:05 |
| Charlie_X | No. token and value are usually the same | 01:08 |
| Charlie_X | token - the first item in the tuple is a something required internally by zope. value - the second item is the value you see in any form and what is actually displayed. | 01:10 |
| shen-long | ahh ok | 01:11 |
| shen-long | so, where would the catalog go? | 01:15 |
| Charlie_X | It feeds your vocabulary. So, either in that method if it's compact enough or a separate one. Is 'query' the catalog result set? | 01:17 |
| shen-long | yes | 01:17 |
| Charlie_X | I may be talking shit about the token, value, title stuff, I've just realised. The title is a nice to have | 01:18 |
| shen-long | hehe | 01:19 |
| Charlie_X | So whatever you have in your catalog metadata - queryable directly from the result set - can be pumped into your vocabulary. | 01:19 |
| shen-long | yeah I'm reading that | 01:19 |
| shen-long | ok | 01:20 |
| shen-long | so it looks like ... | 01:20 |
| shen-long | terms = [SimpleTerm(MyFirstThing), SimpleTerm(MySecondThing)] | 01:21 |
| shen-long | so now I'm getting it, iterate that over the query set once it's a list | 01:21 |
| Charlie_X | say you have 'did' in the metadata: terms = [SimpleTerm(r.did, r.did, r.Title) for r in searchResults] | 01:22 |
| shen-long | thank you, I needed that ;p | 01:22 |
| shen-long | so, ok, cool | 01:23 |
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| Charlie_X | I don't understand iterate over the query set once it's a list. An iterable is anything for which "for x in iterable" works | 01:23 |
| shen-long | so the catalog query results can be used directly | 01:23 |
| Charlie_X | Yes, indeed. No need to coerce them into a list. | 01:23 |
| shen-long | ok, thank you very much | 01:24 |
| shen-long | pretty sure I've got enough to put myself further in the mess ;) | 01:24 |
| Charlie_X | Vocabularies can, and often are, simple functions. | 01:24 |
| shen-long | Charlie_X, thanks! :) | 01:26 |
| Charlie_X | You're welcome. Hope it works for you. | 01:26 |
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| shen-long | lol, me too | 01:26 |
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| Charlie_X | Right bed time for me | 01:27 |
| Charlie_X | nighty night | 01:27 |
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| TKtiddle | Hi, Does anyone know if its possible to add some kind of filter to pagetemplates? I have content which i get with tal:content="structure view/render" but I want to filter out some of this content. I.e I only want to display content that has a certain html class | 13:51 |
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| betabug_island | TKtiddle: you can do anything you want with python | 13:56 |
| betabug_island | but I'd suggest putting that stuff in a python method, as it sounds like it will get complicated quick | 13:57 |
| TKtiddle | yes, ok if i create a pyton script how do i call it from a page template using tal? is there a walk through anywhere? | 13:58 |
| betabug_island | sure, that kind of stuff is in the zope book - docs.zope.org | 13:58 |
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| betabug_island | but a python script limits you to what you can do with python (security restrictions), you probably want this in your product code | 14:00 |
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| teix | TKtiddle: since you're already using a view just define new methods on it | 14:04 |
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| teix | betabug_island: Is Greece a island, right now? :) | 14:05 |
| betabug_island | teix: I'm on a greek island right now, Naxos | 14:06 |
| betabug_island | working here this week :-) | 14:06 |
| kleist | betabug, Naxos has an airport now? i was there 1982, then there was none... i went by boat from Piraeus | 14:07 |
| betabug_island | it has an airport, yes - but I came by boat too, much cheaper | 14:07 |
| betabug_island | and also much more enjoyable, I don't like planes too much | 14:08 |
| kleist | true | 14:08 |
| teix | betabug_island: nice vacances! and work too... :) | 14:08 |
| kleist | is there DSL ? | 14:08 |
| kleist | i mean, broadband internet? | 14:08 |
| betabug_island | vacation was only over the easter weekend | 14:08 |
| betabug_island | maybe there is, but I'm on a 3G connection using my mobile phone | 14:09 |
| kleist | ach! | 14:09 |
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| betabug_island | I think they have ADSL in town, unlikely to work in the little village where I am | 14:09 |
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| TKtiddle | teix: excuse my ignorance, im just reading docs now, is a view a python object that produces html? | 15:36 |
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| teix | TKtiddle: i just saw that 'view/render' tal expression. seems that you're using browser views and there is a method render that returns html to the template | 16:55 |
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| azazel` | hi all | 19:14 |
| azazel` | any idea of if and how it's possible to "broadcast" zope events across zeo clients? maybe using something like zasync? | 19:16 |
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| mcdonc | azazel`: i dont know how to do it, but i think it's possible, because invalidation events are sent to clients when an object is changed | 20:31 |
| mcdonc | (or at least that's my understanding of how it works) | 20:32 |
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