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planetzopebot13th April, 2010 Zope Dev Meeting (Weekly Zope Development Meeting)  http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-dev-meeting/13th-april-2010-zope-dev-meeting04:04
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regebroGod, unittest, doctest and zope.testing are such messy pieces of crap.13:24
betabugis it god's fault?13:24
regebroWhy is a DocTestCases __init__ not run when they are created?13:24
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regebrobetabug: Obviously, everything is Gods fault. :)13:25
betabug!!13:25
koshbetabug: greetings lifeform13:30
betabughey kosh13:30
koshbetabug: so how goes the spread of evil?13:33
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betabugit's spreading very well, all by itself13:43
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koshbetabug: there are lots of champions of it in the modern world13:46
koshbetabug: the mega corps have embraced the spread of evil more then any fictional devil ;)13:46
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regebroI hate zope.testing. Seriously, hate it. I have a proposal: That we deprecate all of zope.testing, and as a part of the Python 3 porting process, we remove all requirements of it.16:37
regebropython setup.py test works just fine.16:37
regebroOr we can use nose, which has a Python 3 branch now.16:38
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benjiregebro: if we can find a reasonable transition path from zope.testing to nose (or something else), it might just take hold17:19
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regebroWell, I don't exactly know why people use zope.testing, so I don't know what needs to be transitioned.17:20
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regebrobenji: I have a feeling it's used just because there was no other testrunners in 2003.17:20
benjiabsolutely; the hard part now would be to come up with a way to transition to something else without huge amounts of effort17:21
benjiI suspect the new test discovery mechanism in the standard library would help some17:21
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regebrobenji: We are already using setuptools, it has a testrunner. Moving to that one is easy.17:24
regebroI know nothing about nose.17:24
benjithere may be some resistence to that if the setuptools testrunner lacks features we're used to or is hard to extend; that's one advantage of nose -- as I understand it -- it it featureful and extensible17:25
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regebroYeah, that's a good point.17:30
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TKtiddlecan some one please help me register a script with zope 3?  Im trying to use configure.zcml with a script I wrote but im really stuck18:29
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