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| planetzopebot | 13th April, 2010 Zope Dev Meeting (Weekly Zope Development Meeting) http://www.ozzope.org/weekly-zope-dev-meeting/13th-april-2010-zope-dev-meeting | 04:04 |
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| regebro | God, unittest, doctest and zope.testing are such messy pieces of crap. | 13:24 |
| betabug | is it god's fault? | 13:24 |
| regebro | Why is a DocTestCases __init__ not run when they are created? | 13:24 |
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| regebro | betabug: Obviously, everything is Gods fault. :) | 13:25 |
| betabug | !! | 13:25 |
| kosh | betabug: greetings lifeform | 13:30 |
| betabug | hey kosh | 13:30 |
| kosh | betabug: so how goes the spread of evil? | 13:33 |
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| betabug | it's spreading very well, all by itself | 13:43 |
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| kosh | betabug: there are lots of champions of it in the modern world | 13:46 |
| kosh | betabug: the mega corps have embraced the spread of evil more then any fictional devil ;) | 13:46 |
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| regebro | I hate zope.testing. Seriously, hate it. I have a proposal: That we deprecate all of zope.testing, and as a part of the Python 3 porting process, we remove all requirements of it. | 16:37 |
| regebro | python setup.py test works just fine. | 16:37 |
| regebro | Or we can use nose, which has a Python 3 branch now. | 16:38 |
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| benji | regebro: if we can find a reasonable transition path from zope.testing to nose (or something else), it might just take hold | 17:19 |
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| regebro | Well, I don't exactly know why people use zope.testing, so I don't know what needs to be transitioned. | 17:20 |
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| regebro | benji: I have a feeling it's used just because there was no other testrunners in 2003. | 17:20 |
| benji | absolutely; the hard part now would be to come up with a way to transition to something else without huge amounts of effort | 17:21 |
| benji | I suspect the new test discovery mechanism in the standard library would help some | 17:21 |
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| regebro | benji: We are already using setuptools, it has a testrunner. Moving to that one is easy. | 17:24 |
| regebro | I know nothing about nose. | 17:24 |
| benji | there may be some resistence to that if the setuptools testrunner lacks features we're used to or is hard to extend; that's one advantage of nose -- as I understand it -- it it featureful and extensible | 17:25 |
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| regebro | Yeah, that's a good point. | 17:30 |
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| TKtiddle | can some one please help me register a script with zope 3? Im trying to use configure.zcml with a script I wrote but im really stuck | 18:29 |
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