IRC log of #zope for Wednesday, 2010-05-05

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TKtiddleAnyone use beautifulsoup from their zope?  I'm trying to use beautifulSoup parser in one of my views in zope2.. so I think I need a version of beautiful soup for python 2.403:30
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bhagatI installed zodb3,  and tried a sample program  from http://zope.org/Documentation/Articles/ZODB1,   from Persistence import Persistent   reporting me  ImportError: No module named Persistence08:14
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baijumbhagat: can you try these docs: http://zodb.org/09:37
baijumthe one you are trying use some old API09:37
bhagatbaijum, : I can paste the code can you  help with modifications?09:38
baijumbhagat: I am not promising, just paste in any pastebin09:39
bhagatthats okay let a try09:39
bhagathttp://python.pastebin.com/1qTXHu7h09:42
bhagatbaijum, ^^^09:42
baijumbhagat: http://zodb.org/documentation/guide/prog-zodb.html#writing-a-persistent-class09:43
bhagatbaijum, uncomment the  5th line09:43
baijumuse "from persistent import Persistent" instead of "from Persistence import Persistent" ...09:43
baijumplease look at zodb.org09:44
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bhagatbaijum,  I used   from persistent import Persistent         but new error,  zc.lockfile.LockError: Couldn't lock 'employees.fs.lock'10:03
baijumbhagat: make sure, you are not connecting to same storage two times10:04
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baijumbhagat: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.lockfile10:11
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bhagat you are right, it seems it has an pre open connection,  just changed the employees.fs to   another name  working10:13
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baijumbhagat: cool11:54
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bhagatbaijum, : thanks for your time12:00
baijumbhagat: welcome :)12:00
bhagatbaijum, whats your interests with zope?12:01
baijumbhagat: Are you going to use ZODB without Zope ?12:01
baijumbhagat: BlueBream http://bluebream.zope.org/12:01
bhagatbaijum,  really I am using zope, but I dont no much about the internals of it12:01
bhagatbaijum, : why to BlueBream, we can use Zope2 with Five ? am I right ?12:02
baijumbhagat: BlueBream is my personal interest, but I use Zope 2 in my office12:02
bhagatbaijum, why there is a sudden change of name from zope2 to BlueBream ..12:03
baijumyes, Five brings many ideas from "Zope 3"12:03
baijumbhagat: Zope 2 is not renamed to BlueBream12:04
bhagatsorry12:04
bhagatZope3 typ12:04
baijumah. ok12:04
bhagattypo error12:04
baijumbhagat: for a detailed answer, you can read this: http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/BlueBreamName12:05
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betabugwhat do people use these days for i18n (translating software messages) in Zope 2?14:36
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mcdoncbetabug: not sure what people "traditionally" use, but the extraction and catalog tools in babel seem to be getting a lot of use lately15:42
betabugbabel?15:43
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* betabug looking for zope.babel15:45
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betabugok, documentation is either not one of its strengths :-/15:50
betabugor else I'm too dumb to find it15:50
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rTheJesteZBabel?16:22
betabugthat was an ages old product16:23
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rTheJesteYeah, I know, I wrote it16:23
rTheJested8)16:23
betabugwhich doesn't seem to have anything to do with zope.babel16:23
betabughahahaha16:23
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baijumbetabug: may be you are looking for this: http://babel.edgewall.org/16:25
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baijumthe FAQ there mention about: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.i18n16:27
betabugbaijum: yes, I've seen that16:27
betabugyupp, seen that too16:27
baijumah. ok :)16:27
betabugdoesn't really answer if zope.babel can be or is used with Zope 216:27
rTheJesteI use Localiser anyway16:30
rTheJestesince it can load pot files16:30
betabugas long as you don't smoke that stuff16:31
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shaunwhi all -- anyone had luck configuring google chrome to use the zope external editor?22:54
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