IRC log of #zope for Saturday, 2010-05-08

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digilordDoes tal have a method for starting at the end of a list so that the last item appears at the top when rendered?00:20
smdigilord: no, you have to reverse the list yourself00:23
digilordsm, Thanks00:25
smeg tal:repeat="python:reversed(thelist)" is worth a try00:25
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CIA-46ulif * r112168 zope.password/README.txt:00:53
CIA-46Decreased indent of bullet list. This way it might look better when00:53
CIA-46rendered to HTML.00:53
CIA-46ulif * r112169 /zope.password/tags/3.6.0: Tag 3.6.0 feature release.00:53
CIA-46ulif * r112170 /zope.password/tags/3.6.0: Remove unreleased faulty tag.00:53
CIA-46ulif * r112171 zope.password/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prepare release properly.00:53
CIA-46ulif * r112172 /zope.password/tags/3.6.0: Tag 3.6.0 feature release.00:53
CIA-46ulif 3.6.0 * r112173 zope.password/setup.py: Remove dev marker.00:53
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CIA-46ulif * r112174 zope.password/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to devel: 3.6.1.01:10
CIA-46jim * r112175 ZODB/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs):01:10
CIA-46Bug Fixed:01:10
CIA-46BTree sets and tree sets didn't correctly check values passed to01:10
CIA-46update or to constructors, causing Python to exit under certain01:10
CIA-46circumstances.01:10
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CIA-46tseaver 2.12 * r112176 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/Products/OFSP/help/sequence.py):06:20
CIA-46Fix indentation of OFSP/help/sequence.py docstring.06:20
CIA-46LP #43572806:20
CIA-46tseaver * r112177 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/Products/OFSP/help/sequence.py):06:20
CIA-46Fix indentation of OFSP/help/sequence.py docstring.06:20
CIA-46LP #43572806:20
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CIA-46tseaver * r112178 zope2docs/zope2book/BasicScripting.rst:06:34
CIA-46Inline example code for readability.06:34
CIA-46LP #43515906:34
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CIA-46tseaver 2.12 * r112179 Zope/ (4 files in 4 dirs):06:54
CIA-46Handle resource files with .htm extention properly as page template resources.06:54
CIA-46LP #41183706:54
CIA-46tseaver * r112180 Zope/ (4 files in 4 dirs):06:54
CIA-46Handle resource files with .htm extention properly as page template resources.06:54
CIA-46LP #41183706:54
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CIA-46tseaver * r112181 DateTime/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): svb07:17
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CIA-46tseaver 2.12 * r112182 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/zExceptions/ExceptionFormatter.py):07:52
CIA-46Don't nest block tags inside HTML <p> tags in zExceptions.ExceptionFormatter.07:52
CIA-46LP #35100607:52
CIA-46tseaver * r112183 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/zExceptions/ExceptionFormatter.py):07:52
CIA-46Don't nest block tags inside HTML <p> tags in zExceptions.ExceptionFormatter.07:52
CIA-46LP #35100607:52
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CIA-46tseaver 2.12 * r112184 Zope/src/DocumentTemplate/tests/ (5 files): Remove sclerotic junk from DocumentTemplate tests.08:47
CIA-46tseaver * r112185 Zope/src/DocumentTemplate/tests/ (5 files): Remove sclerotic junk from DocumentTemplate tests.08:47
CIA-46tseaver 2.12 * r112186 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py):09:01
CIA-46Fix bad except clause in the ``sequence_sort`` method of the ``<dtml-in>`` tag.09:01
CIA-46LP #26782009:01
CIA-46tseaver * r112187 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py):09:01
CIA-46Fix bad except clause in the ``sequence_sort`` method of the ``<dtml-in>`` tag.09:01
CIA-46LP #26782009:01
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paolohello :-) I'd like to learn Zope 3. Is Philipp's book still the most complete and up-to-date resource?10:48
koshbetter learn bluebream I think it is called10:52
koshit is based on what zope 3 was but zope 3 itself is dead10:52
paoloah, bluebream, i have read about it on wikipedia, it thought it was zope 3 renamed... what a confusion :(10:53
koshit is mostly but not quite10:54
koshzope 3 basically never got widespread support10:54
paoloi saw that10:54
paolowhat a pity10:54
koshit was even discussed about renaming zope 2 to zope 4 but that was decided against since so many know the zope 2 name10:54
paoloa great product that never reached the success of competitors like django (that imhhho is far worst)10:55
paolook, so, is there a book?10:55
koshno idea about bluebream10:55
koshI never used zope 3 or the zope 3 tech10:56
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koshI use zope 210:56
koshI am one of those people they never convinced that a switch was worth it10:56
paoloah, good to know. I used zope when at version 2.5.1.. ages ago! because it was almost undocumented and I didn't have any experience in python development10:57
paoloso, apart TTW development, it was a pain for me to do anything10:58
paolobut maybe now there are a lot of books on zope 2.10:58
koshthere are books on zope 210:59
paoloon the other side thare are many interesting projects based on zope 3, like REPOZE :-)11:00
koshthere is even the zope book on the web site11:00
paolothat i'd like to use11:00
paoloyes yes, i translated in italian ;)11:00
koshttw development is the major reason I use zope 211:00
paoloI remember that one of zope2 limit was the abuse of mixin classes, that made difficult and caotic to development with it11:06
paoloit this thing changed?11:06
koshit is not something I Have had a problem with11:07
koshsome people have though11:07
koshmany things have been cleaned up and others have not because it would break backwards compatibility11:07
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paoloI have to develop a complex web application in insurance domain and I'd like to understand if zope could be the right choice11:13
paolohard to see11:13
paoloI say byebye11:22
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d2mhi people -- is planetplanet still the dominant feed aggregator?13:45
d2msm, and what about the planetzopebot - looks interesting13:47
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CIA-46tseaver 3.3 * r112188 zope.publisher/ (41 files in 4 dirs): Conform to repository policy.16:15
CIA-46tseaver 3.4 * r112189 zope.publisher/ (41 files in 4 dirs): Conform to repository policy.16:15
CIA-46tseaver * r112190 zope.testbrowser/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy.16:15
CIA-46tseaver * r112191 zopetoolkit/ (LICENSE.txt bootstrap.py COPYRIGHT.txt): Conform to repository policy.16:15
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smhi d2m17:08
smvenus seems to be the one, for a while now17:08
smplanetzopebot announces the rss feed from your planetzope17:09
smhttp://intertwingly.net/code/venus/17:11
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d2msm, thanks - brb17:36
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CIA-46ulif * r112192 zope.app.server/ (src/zope/app/server/zpasswd.py CHANGES.txt setup.py): Finish move of zpasswd to zope.password.17:53
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CIA-46ulif * r112193 zope.app.server/ (21 files in 3 dirs): Comply to repository policy.19:15
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CIA-46ulif * r112194 Grokstar/ (bootstrap.py COPYRIGHT.txt LICENSE.txt): Comply to repository policy.19:45
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CIA-46ulif * r112208 grokcore.annotation/CHANGES.txt: Update history.20:20
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CIA-46ulif * r112209 grokcore.component/CHANGES.txt: Update history.20:33
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