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CIA-46 | jim * r112107 ZODB/src/ZODB/DemoStorage.py: Removed trailing whitespace. | 00:41 |
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CIA-46 | janjaapdriessen * r112108 grokcore.startup/ (buildout.cfg CHANGES.txt): Use groktoolkit. Fixes tests on windows. | 00:41 |
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sidnei | oh, cool we have a cia bot now | 01:35 |
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CIA-46 | tseaver * r112109 zope.formlib/CHANGES.txt: Update changelog for r111406. | 04:38 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112110 zope.formlib/CHANGES.txt: Better wording. | 04:38 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112111 zope.formlib/ (setup.py CHANGES.txt): Prep 4.0.3 release. | 04:38 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112112 /zope.formlib/tags/4.0.3: Tag 4.0.3 release. | 04:38 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112113 zope.formlib/ (setup.py CHANGES.txt): svb | 04:38 |
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CIA-46 | tseaver * r112114 zopetoolkit/ztk.cfg: Use new bugfix release of zope.formlib. | 05:50 |
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CIA-46 | trollfot * r112115 /megrok.z3ctable: Creating megrok.z3ctable repository. | 12:51 |
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CIA-46 | trollfot * r112116 megrok.z3ctable/ (32 files in 8 dirs): Moved from Dolmen's GIT. | 13:11 |
CIA-46 | trollfot * r112117 /megrok.z3ctable/tags: added tags. | 13:11 |
CIA-46 | trollfot * r112118 /megrok.z3ctable/tags/1.4.1: Tagging 1.4.1 | 13:11 |
CIA-46 | trollfot * r112119 /megrok.z3ctable/tags/1.4.1: removed malformed tag. | 13:11 |
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CIA-46 | trollfot * r112120 megrok.z3ctable/setup.py: Ready for 1.4.2 release | 13:30 |
CIA-46 | trollfot * r112121 /megrok.z3ctable/tags/ (1.4.2/setup.py 1.4.2): Tagging 1.4.2 (1.4.1 is from Dolmen's GIT) | 13:30 |
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CIA-46 | trollfot * r112122 megrok.z3ctable/docs/HISTORY.txt: Added Missing HISTORY.txt | 14:02 |
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CIA-46 | trollfot * r112123 groktoolkit/grok-ecosystem.cfg: | 14:37 |
CIA-46 | Changed megrok.z3ctable to the latest version. | 14:37 |
CIA-46 | Removed dolmen forms packages. They are not in a useable shape (they will be re-added when they are out in a stable version) | 14:37 |
CIA-46 | Still, there are failures in lots of test. We need to act on this. | 14:37 |
* betabug wonders if that CIA bot is such a great idea in this channel | 14:37 | |
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CIA-46 | ulif * r112124 /zope.password/branches: Create branches dir. | 16:22 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112125 /zope.password/branches/ulif-zpasswd: Create branch for moving zpasswd utility from z.a.server to zope.password. | 16:22 |
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CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112126 zope.password/src/zope/password/zpasswd.py: Copy over zpasswd script from z.a.server. | 16:34 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112127 zope.password/src/zope/password/tests: Create testdir. As we will have at least three testfiles, it seems to make sense to have a special testdir. | 16:34 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112128 zope.password/src/zope/password/tests/__init__.py: Make tests/ a package. | 16:34 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112129 zope.password/src/zope/password/tests/test_zpasswd.py: Copy over zpasswd tests from z.a.server. | 16:34 |
teix | betabug: come on! with CIA we'll get more action on this channel ;) | 16:37 |
betabug | yeah, but what kind of action ;-) | 16:39 |
teix | betabug: bytes :) | 16:39 |
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betabug | lines in the log :-) | 16:44 |
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CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112130 zope.password/src/zope/password/ (tests.py tests/test_password.py): Move main old testscript to new location. | 16:47 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112131 zope.password/src/zope/password/tests/test_zpasswd.py: | 16:48 |
CIA-46 | * Copy testsetup pieces from z.a.server. | 16:48 |
CIA-46 | * Let tests apply to new package location. | 16:48 |
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CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112132 zope.password/src/zope/password/zpasswd.py: | 17:02 |
CIA-46 | * Get version from pkgresource. | 17:02 |
CIA-46 | * Make SSHA password manager the default. | 17:02 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112133 zope.password/setup.py: Add new dependencies needed by zpasswd. | 17:02 |
CIA-46 | ulif ulif-zpasswd * r112134 zope.password/CHANGES.txt: Update history. | 17:02 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112135 zope.password/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Merge changes from ulif-zpasswd branch back into trunk. | 17:02 |
TresEquis | betabug, teix: one thing we get is "activity" for the person who drops in, wonders if anything is actually happening in the Zope community at all | 17:08 |
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betabug | yeah, I see that reason | 17:08 |
betabug | but I wonder if a bot is the right answer :-) | 17:08 |
betabug | anyway, I /ignored the bot, so problem solved for me (assuming I got the syntax right) :-) | 17:09 |
teix | betabug: did you see r112135 message? | 17:10 |
teix | TresEquis: and yeah I understand your point! ;) | 17:11 |
betabug | yeah, did the /ignore after that... I think I'll notice when my /ignore fails :-) | 17:11 |
teix | betabug: ok but i could be a bot for you to check if you didn't receive CIA bot messages :D | 17:12 |
betabug | hahaha | 17:12 |
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CIA-46 | tseaver * r112136 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/App/dtml/menu.dtml): | 17:31 |
CIA-46 | Added a link in the ZMI tree pane to make the tree state persistent. | 17:31 |
CIA-46 | Thanks to Lalo Martins for the patch. | 17:31 |
CIA-46 | LP #142401 | 17:31 |
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CIA-46 | tseaver * r112137 Zope/ (4 files in 4 dirs): | 18:16 |
CIA-46 | Make undo log easier to read. | 18:16 |
CIA-46 | Thanks to Toby Dickinson for the patch. | 18:16 |
CIA-46 | LP #142464 | 18:16 |
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CIA-46 | ulif * r112138 zope.password/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Comply to repository policy. | 18:30 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112139 transaction/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Updated tests to remove use of deprecated ``zope.testing.doctest``. | 18:30 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112140 transaction/ (18 files in 3 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 18:30 |
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CIA-46 | ulif * r112141 zope.password/ (src/zope/password/tests/test_password.py setup.py): Get rid of zope.testing dependency. Update keywords. | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112142 /zope.password/branches/ulif-zpasswd: Remove obsolete branch. | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112143 zope.password/CHANGES.txt: Update history. | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112144 transaction/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | Remove double newline between log entries | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | it makes doing smarter formatting harder. | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | See LP #142464. | 18:45 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112145 transaction/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prep 1.0.1 release. | 18:46 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112146 /transaction/tags/1.0.1: Tag 1.0.1 release. | 18:46 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112147 zope.password/buildout.cfg: Add section to generate zpasswd script. | 18:46 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112148 transaction/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development. | 18:46 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112149 zope.password/src/zope/password/zpasswd.py: Remove trash. | 18:46 |
CIA-46 | tseaver * r112150 Zope/versions.cfg: Update to bugfix release of transaction. | 18:46 |
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CIA-46 | tseaver * r112151 zopetoolkit/ztk.cfg: Update to buxfix version of transaction. | 19:00 |
CIA-46 | akm zsql_commit_fix * r112152 Products.SQLAlchemyDA/Products/SQLAlchemyDA/tests/testSQLAlchemyDA.py: refactoring this a bit | 19:00 |
CIA-46 | ulif * r112153 zope.password/README.txt: Update docs. | 19:00 |
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CIA-46 | akm zsql_commit_fix * r112154 Products.SQLAlchemyDA/Products/SQLAlchemyDA/tests/testSQLAlchemyDA.py: adding more tests | 19:16 |
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CIA-46 | akm * r112155 Products.SQLAlchemyDA/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Merged from zsql_commit_fix | 19:31 |
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CIA-46 | akm * r112156 Products.SQLAlchemyDA/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Preparing release 0.5.0 | 19:47 |
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sig11 | Howdy. I'm trying to write a precondition for a file object and I'm wondering if there are a list of attributes somewhere... | 19:58 |
sig11 | can anyone point me in the right direction for zope2? | 19:59 |
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CIA-46 | akm * r112157 /Products.SQLAlchemyDA/tags/0.5.0: tagging 0.5.0 | 20:02 |
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CIA-46 | akm * r112158 Products.SQLAlchemyDA/ (setup.py Products/SQLAlchemyDA/CHANGES.txt): svb | 20:23 |
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CIA-46 | jim * r112159 ZODB/src/ (ZODB/DemoStorage.py ZODB/DemoStorage.test CHANGES.txt): | 21:47 |
CIA-46 | DemoStorages now accept constructor athuments, close_base_on_close | 21:47 |
CIA-46 | and close_changes_on_close, to control whether underlying storages | 21:47 |
CIA-46 | are closed when the DemoStorage is closed. | 21:47 |
CIA-46 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/118512 | 21:47 |
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CIA-46 | gotcha * r112160 megrok.kss/ (9 files in 3 dirs): | 22:01 |
CIA-46 | Conform to repository policy. | 22:01 |
CIA-46 | At least one of the laggards has made a step forward... | 22:01 |
CIA-46 | gotcha * r112161 /megrok.kss/branches/0.2: can be created again from tag 0.2 | 22:01 |
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sig11 | Can anyone give me a hand writing a precondition for a file? | 22:09 |
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moo--- | sig11: what's a precondition for a file? | 22:11 |
sig11 | a precondition is a ZPT or DTML program that is run before a file is served | 22:12 |
sig11 | I want to try to use an external method to see if I can resolve a UnicodeDecode error. | 22:13 |
CIA-46 | gotcha * r112162 five.grok/buildout.cfg: pin zope2instance to avoid conflict with 4.xxx | 22:16 |
CIA-46 | gotcha * r112163 five.grok/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 22:16 |
CIA-46 | gotcha 1.0 * r112164 five.grok/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 22:16 |
CIA-46 | gotcha * r112165 five.dbevent/ (LICENSE.txt bootstrap.py COPYRIGHT.txt src): Conform to repository policy. | 22:16 |
CIA-46 | gotcha * r112166 /Sandbox/gotcha/z3c.taskqueue/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 22:16 |
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moo--- | sig11: ummm... what do you mean by "file is served" | 22:17 |
moo--- | sig11: you can manually call your file or whatever it is from a zope debug console by using traversing | 22:18 |
sig11 | It's a zope file object... so yes. | 22:23 |
moo--- | sig11: go to debug console and try type app.yoursite.zopefileobjectid() | 22:25 |
moo--- | sig11: it should do the same thing as calling the file from URL | 22:25 |
moo--- | sig11: it tries to output it to the terminal | 22:26 |
moo--- | sig11: and if there is a UnicodeDecode error then you should get a good traceback | 22:26 |
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moo--- | sig11: but my guess that file is damaged, its title or description contains illegal characters | 22:26 |
moo--- | sig11: which could be fixed from ZMI, I hope | 22:26 |
Hadaka | I have a zope 2.9 zodb database, that has a plone site - I want to recover a couple of plone pages from there - without installing plone and without running any zope http server - preferably I'd like a command-line tool for it | 22:27 |
moo--- | Hadaka: that's pretty difficult. It would be easier just to install Plone. | 22:30 |
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moo--- | Hadaka: you need Zope environment in any case to read database | 22:30 |
moo--- | it does not function without the related code | 22:31 |
Hadaka | moo---: that's nasty :( | 22:35 |
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moo--- | Hadaka: well in theory it does, but there are only 2-5 people in the world who probably could help you | 22:36 |
moo--- | it is not like SQL or anything | 22:36 |
moo--- | it is a hacked together database without proper tools | 22:36 |
moo--- | it works well if you use it like it is supposed to use :( | 22:37 |
Hadaka | moo---: how about if I just convert it from FileStorage to DirectoryStorage? is there a decent command-line for that | 22:38 |
moo--- | Hadaka: it does automatically made any plone objects readable without plone code | 22:39 |
moo--- | Hadaka: just believe me and install plone... lots of easier | 22:39 |
moo--- | Hadaka: you need at least plone code, not necessarily running in http port | 22:40 |
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Hadaka | I know, but I just want the text parts - I can just slice them out from inside the binaries | 22:40 |
sig11 | moo---: hrm... AttributeError: __call__ :V It took me a minute to remember the slightly silly latout of my app... | 22:40 |
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moo--- | Hadaka: ok, here are some tips and tricks how to manually replay transcations http://collective-docs.plone.org/persistency/database.html and http://collective-docs.plone.org/troubleshooting/transactions.html | 22:43 |
Hadaka | moo---: thanks! | 22:43 |
moo--- | but trust me... you would still save some hours by just installing plone :) | 22:43 |
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Hadaka | moo---: okay, solved the problem - finally decided to just sod it, opened the file with 'less' and searched for 'text/x-rst' as I know that was the mime-type for my pages | 23:06 |
Hadaka | moo---: then just copy-pasted stuff out from the terminal | 23:07 |
moo--- | Hadaka: brute way :) | 23:08 |
Hadaka | moo---: thanks for the pointers though - I got as far as to realizing that I can't even easily traverse objects without loading proper classes | 23:10 |
moo--- | Hadaka: I tried to tell you :) | 23:11 |
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TresEquis | moo--- I'm not sure "hacked together" is a reasonable or fair description of ZODB | 23:23 |
TresEquis | the query language is Python, of course, which is a much nicer tool than SQL :) | 23:23 |
moo--- | TresEquis: only if you could read the data without loading the source :) | 23:24 |
moo--- | I think ZODB would be far better if it had been ported to PHP on early days and it would enjoy a bit more use, outside Zope/Plone folks | 23:25 |
moo--- | too small community, though it is a community of the greatest minds | 23:25 |
TresEquis | moo---: object databases are databases of objects | 23:25 |
TresEquis | you need the classes to use the objects | 23:25 |
moo--- | and having too great minds make it difficult for less great minds enter there :) | 23:25 |
TresEquis | not a unique characteristic of the ZODB | 23:25 |
moo--- | TresEquis: I hope ZODB book will help us greatly here | 23:26 |
TresEquis | more docs can't hurt | 23:26 |
TresEquis | and Carlos writes great ones | 23:26 |
Hadaka | TresEquis: there are self-describing objects and there are many formats where objects are traversable and their native datatypes can be easily read without having the class | 23:26 |
* moo--- nods towards Hadaka | 23:27 | |
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TresEquis | Hadaka: but none of those are "object databases" | 23:44 |
TresEquis | the point of which is to make working with the objects themselves "seamlessly persistent" | 23:45 |
TresEquis | that is not a design goal of Mongo / CouchDB etc. | 23:45 |
TresEquis | the "canonical" way to get what you wanted would be to install the corresponding Plone, then run 'zopectl debug' | 23:48 |
TresEquis | and be at a live Python interpreter prompt, with the objects available to be reached from the "root" object, 'app' | 23:48 |
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TresEquis | e.g.:: html = app.folder.page.read() | 23:49 |
TresEquis | Python is the query language ;) | 23:49 |
TresEquis | or you could write a script using 'app', and run using 'zopectl run' | 23:49 |
TresEquis | I mean, would you expect to be able to get data out of a PostgreSQL DB dump without the PostgreSQL software? | 23:50 |
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