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| planetzopebot | NOTICE: Planned server and list outage (gmane.comp.web.zope.announce) http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.announce/1481 | 13:34 |
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| CIA-94 | frisi * r112677 zc.table/ (src/zc/table/column.py src/zc/table/column.txt CHANGES.txt): use xhml valid unicode entities | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | thefunny42 1.x * r112678 grokcore.component/ (4 files in 2 dirs): | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | Extend the ZCML directive to be able to customize the exclude filter. | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | Add testing to the list of default excluded names. | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | pep8 fixes. | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | frisi * r112679 zc.table/setup.py: correct mailinglist | 14:02 |
| CIA-94 | thefunny42 1.x * r112680 grokcore.component/buildout.cfg: If we run tests on our extension instead of the released one, it is better. | 14:02 |
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| CIA-94 | thefunny42 1.x * r112681 grokcore.component/src/grokcore/component/tests/test_grok.py: pep8 fixes. deprecation warnings. | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | frisi * r112682 zc.table/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): include changes in pkginfo (hopefully does not break rst) | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | jens 2.12 * r112683 Zope/ (12 files in 3 dirs): | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | - LP #142874: Naming objects ``URL`` or ``URL1`` broke several ZMI | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | views. | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | jens * r112684 Zope/ (12 files in 3 dirs): | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | - LP #142874: Naming objects ``URL`` or ``URL1`` broke several ZMI | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | views. | 14:22 |
| mup | Bug #142874: Error in zmi when an object is named 'URL' or 'URL1' <bug> <zope> <Zope 2:Fix Committed by jens-dataflake> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/142874> | 14:22 |
| mup | Bug #142874: Error in zmi when an object is named 'URL' or 'URL1' <bug> <zope> <Zope 2:Fix Committed by jens-dataflake> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/142874> | 14:22 |
| CIA-94 | ctheune * r112685 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/zope-dev/ (zope-dev-20100525.rst index.rst): Today's agenda. | 14:22 |
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| ignas | hi | 14:57 |
| ignas | is there a way to set a specific socket to be used when configuring connection string of a Z MySQL Database Connection? | 14:58 |
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| ignas | oh, heh, found it in the manual | 14:59 |
| ignas | it's the last parameter of the connection string | 14:59 |
| CIA-94 | ulif * r112686 z3c.testsetup/src/z3c/testsetup/testrunner.txt: Make tests work with more recent zope.testing versions and standard lib doctest module. | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | jens 2.12 * r112687 Zope/ (src/Zope2/__init__.py doc/CHANGES.rst): | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | - LP #143261: The (very old-fashioned) Zope2.debug interactive request | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | debugger still referred to the toplevel module ``Zope``, which was | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | renamed to ``Zope2`` a long time ago. | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | jens * r112688 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst src/Zope2/__init__.py): | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | - LP #143261: The (very old-fashioned) Zope2.debug interactive request | 15:01 |
| mup | Bug #143261: AttributeError: level in App/special_dtml.py using ZPublisher.Zope method <bug> <zope> <Zope 2:Confirmed for jens-dataflake> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/143261> | 15:01 |
| mup | Bug #143261: AttributeError: level in App/special_dtml.py using ZPublisher.Zope method <bug> <zope> <Zope 2:Confirmed for jens-dataflake> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/143261> | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | debugger still referred to the toplevel module ``Zope``, which was | 15:01 |
| CIA-94 | renamed to ``Zope2`` a long time ago. | 15:01 |
| do3cc | mup: help | 15:02 |
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| CIA-94 | tseaver * r112690 zope.viewlet/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Prep 3.7.2 release. | 17:18 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r112691 /zope.viewlet/tags/3.7.2: Tag 3.7.2 release. | 17:18 |
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| CIA-94 | Use bugfixe versions of zope.viewlet and zope.contentprovider. | 17:18 |
| CIA-94 | Tests of released versions should now pass under Python 2.4. | 17:18 |
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| do3cc | first | 18:00 |
| Theuni1 | that's what you think :) | 18:00 |
| regebro | Last! | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | Wow. We have an updated sphinx rendering. :) | 18:01 |
| regebro | (Quickest meeting in history) | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100525.html | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | regebro: thanks. adjourned. | 18:01 |
| * Theuni1 gets ice cream | 18:01 | |
| Theuni1 | Alright guys. | 18:01 |
| Theuni1 | First our most beloved topic: windows builds | 18:01 |
| agroszer | hi | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | sidnei, agroszer: any of you alive? | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | ah. | 18:02 |
| agroszer | actually back from sickness ;-) | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | ouch! | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: did you manage to look into the AMIs? | 18:02 |
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| agroszer | naah, read into rackspace, then got sick | 18:02 |
| agroszer | I read your mail | 18:02 |
| Theuni1 | Something I wonder: if we have the AMI - we can't use that for going to rackspace I guess, do we? | 18:03 |
| agroszer | nope, rackspace is rather different | 18:03 |
| agroszer | in pricing too | 18:03 |
| agroszer | they charge also when the machine is off | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | uh, interesting. | 18:03 |
| agroszer | but in turn it's fully persistent | 18:03 |
| Theuni1 | hmhmhm. | 18:04 |
| agroszer | and accorfing to some pages lot faster than ec2 | 18:04 |
| agroszer | f/d | 18:04 |
| Theuni1 | Now that we already have the AMIs ... I wonder whether that would invalidate sidnei's work? | 18:04 |
| agroszer | something I could try locally: | 18:04 |
| Theuni1 | I guess we need to balance off the two offers and seriously ponder only activating the machines when needed. In that case the more expensive 64-bit option in Amazon might still be a good idea. | 18:05 |
| agroszer | you just need to install python and msvc express | 18:05 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: what do you want to try? | 18:06 |
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| agroszer | I'd rather reason for rackspace, but then with a fully fledged egg builder+buildbot | 18:06 |
| agroszer | with a BB for 64bit and all possible zope projects | 18:07 |
| agroszer | Theuni1, rather a q: do we want ONLY want to build eggs or also have buildbots for win64? | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | both | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | we want eggs and buildbots for both win32 and win64 | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | that are accessible by community members | 18:08 |
| agroszer | then I'd say 1 64bit rackspace machine | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | the latter being a rather loose requirement | 18:08 |
| Theuni1 | and the 64-bit machine can deal with 32-bit builds? | 18:09 |
| agroszer | has to | 18:09 |
| agroszer | win64 ha a 32bit subsystem | 18:09 |
| agroszer | +s | 18:09 |
| aphor | Theunil: unless it's Itanium.... | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | sidnei: did you say something about this earlier? | 18:09 |
| agroszer | everything 32bit runs on it | 18:09 |
| Theuni1 | aphor: uh yeah. hope not. grrr. | 18:09 |
| aphor | Theunil: read the fine print :) | 18:10 |
| agroszer | I don't think rackspace has itanums | 18:10 |
| Theuni1 | That would be rather surprising. | 18:10 |
| agroszer | I guess I'll prepare a small table with costs+possibilities | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | that would be good | 18:11 |
| agroszer | agreed | 18:11 |
| aphor | AMD64 supports 32 bit binaries. | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | If you could poke sidnei about his oppinion for the 32/64 bit parallel build | 18:11 |
| Theuni1 | aphor: yup. the question is rather whether the specific configuration needed for the builds on windows support being installed in parallel | 18:11 |
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| agroszer | I'm sure win64 can compile and test for 32bit | 18:12 |
| aphor | When the chip executes the instructions it makes it a no-brainer for MS OS. | 18:12 |
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| Theuni1 | agroszer: My oppinion is to go with an estimate to the board and ask for an initial "trial period" funding | 18:12 |
| Theuni1 | one or two months aren't too bad | 18:12 |
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| aphor | The only good reason to have a dedicated 32 bit environment is if you're targeting special embed(ded-able) hardware | 18:13 |
| aphor | Zope appliance anyone? | 18:13 |
| do3cc | no thanks | 18:13 |
| agroszer | the only weirdness ist the program files (x86) folder | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: are you fine with the goal of getting a 1-2 month trial period funded initially with the outlook of what the follow-up costs would be? | 18:13 |
| Theuni1 | i'd like to get into a position quickly where we have something running that can be tuned later on. | 18:14 |
| agroszer | with a strong believe for a continuation | 18:14 |
| agroszer | the setup will take some efforts... | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: another item on the checklist would be how multiple users can deal with a machine (e.g. the foundation has an account and pays for it and gives access to other users) | 18:14 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: there's no problem with the continuation. however, doing a full-fledged all-in decision we need more details I think and some practical experience. | 18:15 |
| aphor | Theunil: are you planning to provide remote access to the build server? | 18:16 |
| agroszer | access could be twofold | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | i think that's it for the windows buidls. I'll rename the 'amazon funding' to a 'foundation-funded windows build-machines" | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | aphor: i'm planning to use whatever the cloud provider does ;) | 18:16 |
| agroszer | some guys having console access, some sort of a "hit the button, get the eggs" | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:16 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: for the continuity i'd just like to see that we can hand out the access independent of who owns the provider account and pays for it | 18:16 |
| agroszer | first is easy, add some accounts... like un*x | 18:17 |
| aphor | What about running a "raw" cheeseshop and letting the buildbot pull from that? | 18:17 |
| Theuni1 | ?!? | 18:17 |
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| agroszer | second needs some coding, setup | 18:17 |
| * TresEquis notes time | 18:17 | |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: thanks | 18:17 |
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| Theuni1 | agroszer: the first is what i'm looking for. i'd just like to have this on the checklist for now so we don't forget about it. | 18:18 |
| * Theuni1 moves to the next topic | 18:18 | |
| Theuni1 | oh, it's agroszer again :) | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | KGS 3.4.1 release | 18:18 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: how's that release coming along? | 18:18 |
| * agroszer sickness affected | 18:18 | |
| agroszer | I have to bump the versions to c1 and ask Jens | 18:19 |
| agroszer | tgz and exe versions will be done when someone asks for ;-) | 18:19 |
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| Theuni1 | Fine with me. I guess you include the offer in the release notes, right? | 18:19 |
| agroszer | sure | 18:19 |
| Theuni1 | I guess your sickness kept you from documenting the release process? | 18:20 |
| agroszer | it's not so bad | 18:20 |
| CIA-94 | frisi * r112698 zc.table/ (README.txt CHANGES.txt setup.py): prepare release and use long_description too to show change-history in pypi | 18:20 |
| CIA-94 | frisi * r112699 zc.table/setup.py: Prepare zc.table 0.8.1. | 18:20 |
| agroszer | most of it is there | 18:20 |
| CIA-94 | frisi * r112700 /zc.table/tags/0.8.1: Tagged zc.table 0.8.1. | 18:20 |
| CIA-94 | ulif * r112701 /grokcore.view/branches/ulif-zawsgi_ftests: Create branch to reenable ftests based on z.a.wsgi. | 18:20 |
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| Theuni1 | agroszer: is there a place where people can look at it already? | 18:21 |
| srichter | agroszer: Theuni1: I thought I had pretty decent release instructions on the Wiki somewhere | 18:21 |
| agroszer | best release doc for the KGS is in the zope.release package | 18:21 |
| agroszer | at least what I easily found | 18:22 |
| agroszer | (tgz and exe is a different animal) | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | Are those going to be in use further? I guess the ZTK and individual package release process differs a good bit? | 18:22 |
| Theuni1 | Those places (wiki and zope.release) just sound like places I wouldn't look for official developer documentation nowadays. | 18:23 |
| baijum | agroszer: srichter: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DeveloperInfo#release-management | 18:23 |
| srichter | http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/MakingARelease | 18:23 |
| Theuni1 | Ok, those go into the protocol for now. :) | 18:24 |
| agroszer | yes! | 18:24 |
| Theuni1 | agroszer: any other help you need? | 18:24 |
| agroszer | gotta read through | 18:24 |
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| agroszer | looks like everything is there | 18:24 |
| TresEquis | sounds like we should consolidate to Sphinx docs and deprecate the others | 18:25 |
| agroszer | next topic? | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: yup. i'll take that as a note for future agendas | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | yes | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | last bug day | 18:25 |
| Theuni1 | Does anybody have (by accident) any metrics? | 18:26 |
| agroszer | (I checked there azure, which is useless for BB) | 18:26 |
| Theuni1 | I wanted to get some before/after numbers, but that didn't happen. | 18:26 |
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| Theuni1 | I did get some bugs out of the Zope 3 bug tracker, though. Some only moved and some got fixed. | 18:27 |
| TresEquis | I kind of missed the bugday, myself | 18:27 |
| dataflake | I worked on Zope2 bugs, probably hit a dozen | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | dataflake: yay :) | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | LP tells me there's only 25 bugs left in the Zope 3 tracker by now. | 18:28 |
| TresEquis | I did help land a patch from bzr | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: and i saw you make releases in the aftermath, right/ | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | ? | 18:28 |
| TresEquis | yes | 18:28 |
| Theuni1 | that's also something we probably have to ponder further | 18:28 |
| TresEquis | we need to get in the habit of adding the bugs worked on to the bugday wiki page | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | Was having the bug day on a working day OK for people? | 18:29 |
| TresEquis | or else tag them with a unique tag | 18:29 |
| dataflake | TresEquis: good idea | 18:29 |
| dataflake | TresEquis: want to do that retroactively? | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | TresEquis: what's the goal for that? | 18:29 |
| baijum | I wrote few test cases for zope.mkzeoinstance, but no bug fixes | 18:29 |
| dataflake | Theuni1: metrics | 18:29 |
| TresEquis | so that we can figure out what got done\ | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | right | 18:29 |
| Theuni1 | I tried getting a query on LP something like "changed on day X" | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | couldn't do it from the UI though | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | that would make more sense to me if non-regulars work/comment on things without doing the manual paperwork | 18:30 |
| TresEquis | I've gotta run | 18:30 |
| Theuni1 | Last time we pondered doing a doodle for the next bug day. Is that still game? | 18:30 |
| TresEquis | sure | 18:31 |
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| Theuni1 | Then I'll post an open doodle to the mailing list for the next time. | 18:31 |
| dataflake | that was quick | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | I propose the week of June 15. | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | anybody against that? | 18:31 |
| dataflake | ok for me | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | alright then. | 18:31 |
| baijum | fin | 18:31 |
| Theuni1 | that's it for today. | 18:31 |
| baijum | *fine | 18:31 |
| dataflake | thanks Theuni1 | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | you've been a great audience :) | 18:32 |
| Theuni1 | np | 18:32 |
| srichter | go Theuni! | 18:32 |
| regebro | yo! | 18:32 |
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| do3cc | no! stay | 18:32 |
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| CIA-94 | 1. Upgraded CKEditor to latest (3.2.1) from v3.0. | 20:40 |
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| CIA-94 | Bug Fixed | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Pack scripts were incorrectly generated for storages that weren't | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | named in their storage configurations. | 22:17 |
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| planetzopebot | collective.lineage 0.6 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/collective.lineage/0.6 | 22:34 |
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| planetzopebot | zc.zodbrecipes 0.6.1 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zodbrecipes/0.6.1 | 23:34 |
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