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| chris____ | hey guys, absolute n00b in python and zope, how do i login to Zope Management Interface? tried domain:8080/manage but didnt work. I have backend access to the server, looked at zope.conf but nothing | 08:15 |
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| d2m | chris____: maybe a firewall problem? | 08:16 |
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| chris____ | thanx d2m, no firewall. is the admin path written any .conf file to be sure? | 08:19 |
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| d2m | chris____: on the backend try localhost:8080/manage | 08:19 |
| d2m | maybe the zope server is not running at all | 08:20 |
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| chris____ | thanks guys, found the port inside zope.conf port:19080 . Should have guessed | 08:36 |
| d2m | ;) | 08:36 |
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| planetzopebot | Products.TrustedExecutables 1.0.3 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.TrustedExecutables/1.0.3 | 13:04 |
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| planetzopebot | quintagroup.plonegooglesitemaps 1.5 (PyPI recent updates) http://pypi.python.org/pypi/quintagroup.plonegooglesitemaps/1.5 | 16:04 |
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| betabug | do problems with signal.signal(signal.SIGALRM, ...) ring a bell for anybody? (Zope 2) | 17:08 |
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| betabug | it looks like the method where I put that line just stops before that very line, returning without raising any exceptions | 17:08 |
| betabug | it seems to work in my unit tests, but not in my running instance | 17:09 |
| mgedmin | signals don't work well with multiple threads, do they? | 17:11 |
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| betabug | yeah, the docs say something like that | 17:12 |
| betabug | but in a vague way - and I have no experience with this stuff | 17:13 |
| betabug | so it would be useful to know if someone had positive experiences :-) | 17:14 |
| mgedmin | I just remembered -- signals in Python are always handled by the main thread | 17:15 |
| betabug | yeah | 17:15 |
| mgedmin | so there's now way you could use them in Zope apps | 17:15 |
| betabug | :-/ | 17:15 |
| betabug | mgedmin: thanks for making it clear though! | 17:16 |
| betabug | it would have been a nice solution for the task at hand... trying to implement a timeout on running an external command | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | http://docs.python.org/library/signal.html | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | well, you could fork and then set up the timeout in a child process | 17:18 |
| betabug | yeah, I was reading that, but the implication didn't dawn on me really | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | (making the original child process a grandchild instead) | 17:18 |
| betabug | hmmm | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | does your app need to work on Windows? | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | no fork there :/ | 17:18 |
| betabug | no | 17:18 |
| betabug | no windows for this | 17:19 |
| betabug | there is already enough suffering in the world, it's not necessary to further that all the time | 17:19 |
| mgedmin | alternatively just use subprocess, then loop a bit | 17:19 |
| mgedmin | checking if it exitted and calling kill after the system time reaches your limit | 17:19 |
| mgedmin | i.e. no subprocess.call or blocking wait | 17:20 |
| betabug | yeah, I use subprocess | 17:20 |
| betabug | and then communicate() | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | aah | 17:21 |
| betabug | the sample code with signal.alarm() was just what I needed | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | well, lucky for you the source code is available ;) | 17:21 |
| betabug | hehe | 17:21 |
| betabug | which of all of them are you referring to? | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | the communicate method | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | it's kind of tricky | 17:22 |
| betabug | it doesn't have a timeout parameter though | 17:22 |
| betabug | at least not in python 2.4 | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | right | 17:22 |
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| mgedmin | I was thinking about modifying it and adding a timeout | 17:23 |
| betabug | hmmm | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | but it looks more and more difficult as I stare at the source | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | the fork + signal solution seems simpler | 17:23 |
| betabug | hmmm | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | wait! | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | even simpler solution | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | p = subprocess.Popen(...) | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | threading.Thread(target=self._kill_process_after_a_timeout, args=(self.timeout,)).start() | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | better make that args=(p, self.timeout) | 17:24 |
| mgedmin | then in that thread do a time.sleep(timeout) and p.kill() | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | catching and ignoring "no such process" | 17:25 |
| betabug | so I start a thread that will kill the subprocess | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | yes | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | call it a watchdog thread | 17:25 |
| betabug | ... and hoping that the PID isn't reassigned ;-) | 17:25 |
| mgedmin | yeah, better check if the process exitted before killing | 17:25 |
| betabug | but yeah, could be workable | 17:25 |
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| betabug | and thinking that Guido had asked to add a timeout parameter to subprocess in 1995 | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | maybe that turned out to be problematic and he went back in time and removed it | 17:28 |
| betabug | dunno | 17:28 |
| mgedmin | (maybe make the thread loop in increments of 1 second and poll for process completion, so you don't end up with N background threads sleeping when their processes already finished) | 17:28 |
| betabug | I could signal the thread that it doesn't need to watch anymore maybe | 17:29 |
| betabug | but I'd have to seriously read up on threads in python :-) | 17:29 |
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| Taggnostr | hello | 17:29 |
| mgedmin | no, betabug, you cannot interrupt threads in Python | 17:30 |
| betabug | aha | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | but you could use a condition variable with a timeout | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | so the worker thread can signal the watchdog thread prematurely | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | genius! | 17:31 |
| betabug | the thread can access a variable somewhere else? | 17:31 |
| mgedmin | yes, that's what threads are all about: shared memory | 17:32 |
| mgedmin | e.g. this: http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html#event-objects | 17:32 |
| mgedmin | in the first thread create the subprocess, create an Event variable, pass it to the watchdog thread | 17:33 |
| mgedmin | in the watchdog thread call event.wait(timeout) | 17:33 |
| mgedmin | in the main thread do p.communicate(); then event.set() | 17:33 |
| betabug | something like that was what I was thinking about | 17:33 |
| betabug | and event.set() signals that the p.communicate() went through, no further waiting needed | 17:34 |
| mgedmin | yes | 17:34 |
| betabug | cool! thanx! | 17:34 |
| betabug | ... but first the weekend, I'll get to this on monday with the irc log :-) | 17:38 |
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| comptekki | i have exported a a folder in plone to a file.zexp. Is there a way to read this file and work with the data with a python script? | 18:05 |
| comptekki | is there a lib to use to know how to process this? | 18:06 |
| comptekki | zope version Zope-2.10.11-final from plone 3.3.5 install | 18:07 |
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| bigkevmcd | comptekki: short answer, no | 18:26 |
| bigkevmcd | comptekki: long answer, if you imported it to a ZODB, you could manipulate it | 18:26 |
| comptekki | bigkevmcd: ok, thx. | 18:26 |
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