IRC log of #zope for Saturday, 2010-06-19

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planetzopebotp4a.plonevideo 1.2 (PyPI recent updates)  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/p4a.plonevideo/1.200:04
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planetzopebotp4a.plonevideoembed 1.2 (PyPI recent updates)  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/p4a.plonevideoembed/1.201:04
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planetzopebotPlomino 1.6.3 (PyPI recent updates)  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Plomino/1.6.303:04
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planetzopebotPlone 3.3 Products Development Cookbook (Weblog)  http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2010/06/plone3-cookbook03:34
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planetzopebotProducts.ZCTextIndex 2.13.0 (PyPI recent updates)  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Products.ZCTextIndex/2.13.022:04
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MatthewWilkesCan anyone think of a way to differentiate between a transaction that lost its vote and one that failed in finalize?23:00
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bitmonkMatthewWilkes: doesn't look like you can, but that may be a situation begging for an event.23:23
bitmonkthe same except block runs for both failures.. what problem are you trying to solve?23:25
MatthewWilkesbitmonk: I'm writing tests to prove a bug in zope.sendmail that causes tpc_finish to raise errors if the mailhost is unreachable23:26
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MatthewWilkesI'm not sure if it should swallow all errors, or what, but it can at least try to avoid gaierrors or socket timeouts in vote23:27
bitmonkyou may have to directly invoke that code yourself23:27
bitmonkwhich, acceptedly, may not be an ideal solution.23:28
MatthewWilkesYeah, it feels like there should be some more granularity though, I mean in a running zope it logs a CRITICAL message, not sure if there's a different transactionmanager being used there23:28
bitmonknope i'm looking at that log.critical right now23:29
bitmonkhttp://svn.zope.org/transaction/trunk/transaction/_transaction.py23:29
bitmonkhttp://svn.zope.org/transaction/trunk/transaction/_transaction.py?rev=112260&view=markup23:29
MatthewWilkesI've got the same file open in textmate23:29
bitmonkright on..23:29
bitmonkwell if you check Transaction._voted[id(rm)] when the failure occurs, may be helpful.23:32
MatthewWilkesmaybe I could add a handler, but that's ugly as hell.23:33
bitmonksee where tpc_vote is called, this is set true immediately after.23:33
bitmonki'm not sure this approach is less ugly ;d23:33
bitmonkless invasive, perhaps23:33
MatthewWilkesIntrospecting the internal state of a transaction? Nah, it's 'elegant' ;)23:34
MatthewWilkesvoted seems to be good23:34
MatthewWilkesThere appears to only be one data manager active in these tests, so wouldn't even have to worry about sorting it out from the ZODB one23:34
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bitmonksure at least you're using documented apis ;)23:35
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