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| ccomb | I get a an error "500 Internal Server Error" when trying to commit into docs.zope.org_website | 00:54 |
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| MadRobot | Theuni1, sorry. That was a mistake.. obviously.. | 11:37 |
| Theuni1 | :) | 11:39 |
| Theuni1 | unfortunately not that obviously | 11:40 |
| MadRobot | lol. | 11:40 |
| MadRobot | I was just joining that channel but I forgot the '/' before the "join". That was just about it. :) | 11:42 |
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| Theuni1 | sure, sorry for snapping :) | 12:15 |
| CIA-94 | seletz * r115662 /z3c.recipe.staticlxml/tags/0.7.2: prepping 0.7.2 | 12:15 |
| CIA-94 | seletz * r115663 /z3c.recipe.staticlxml/branches/0.7.2: prepping 0.7.2 | 12:15 |
| CIA-94 | seletz 0.7.2 * r115664 z3c.recipe.staticlxml/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): 0.7.2 | 12:15 |
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| bobo_b | Hi. | 12:17 |
| bobo_b | The error templates use "err_message options/error_message". How can I set the options dict on a request manually? | 12:18 |
| bobo_b | ('options' in dir(request)) and ('options' in request.form) are both false | 12:19 |
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| nestm | guys, I'm writing zope product, which uses other products with custom permissions, where should I declare those? I'm getting ForbiddenAttribute error | 13:07 |
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| MatthewWilkes | nestm: Use declareProtected in ClassSecurityInfo | 13:12 |
| nestm | MatthewWilkes: thank you, but how can I use that method in some other place then? | 13:19 |
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| Moo^_^ | nestm: you can use it anywhere | 13:20 |
| Moo^_^ | nestm: if you do not have use ModuleSecurityInfo | 13:21 |
| Moo^_^ | +class | 13:21 |
| nestm | but I seem to be lacking permissions? | 13:21 |
| Moo^_^ | nestm: do the permission declaration in python product code, not in restrictedpython or externalmethod | 13:22 |
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| nestm | Moo^_^: yes, I declareProtected my method in my product code, but then I want to use that method from another product's code and then I get ForbiddenAttribute | 13:23 |
| Moo^_^ | nestm: could you please paste example to code to pastie.org | 13:24 |
| Moo^_^ | and related traceack | 13:24 |
| nestm | Moo^_^: I solved it, thanks, typo in permission name... :( | 13:30 |
| Moo^_^ | nestm: a common mistake :) | 13:31 |
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| MrJones | hi | 17:17 |
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| MrJones | how does zope treat form input data? | 17:18 |
| MrJones | I don't know in which encoding it comes in through http post, but does zope e.g. convert the strings to utf8? or leave them unconverted? does it remove invalid bytes in the encoding? or would I need to check that myself | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | in zope 3, request.form always contains unicode data | 17:20 |
| mgedmin | in zope 2, I don't remember | 17:20 |
| MrJones | mgedmin: so I can assume that it is a) unicode and b) also doesn't contain any invalid utf8 chars? | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | why don't you make a little test? | 17:21 |
| MrJones | mgedmin: I'd need to write something that spits out invalid utf8 data first :) | 17:21 |
| MrJones | and find some byte sequence that's clearly invalid and would cause problems | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | telnet localhost 8080 ... | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | in application/x-www-form-urlencoded data %FF would represent an invalid byte in UTF-8 | 17:22 |
| MrJones | can you give me the decimal byte representation of this? | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | ... 255 | 17:23 |
| MrJones | ok thanks :) | 17:23 |
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| MrJones | mgedmin: it seems to me the invalid byte just gets passed on to python and my application | 17:35 |
| MrJones | but at the same time I have no problem printing it, so probably python doesn't care | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | as an str or as an unicode? | 17:35 |
| MrJones | mgedmin: well if you say zope 3 uses unicode strings it's most likely a unicode string | 17:36 |
| MrJones | (since I'm using zope 3) | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | then "most likely" zope falls back to decoding the request data using Latin-1 if UTF-8 fails | 17:36 |
| MrJones | but it will convert to utf8 anyway? so I always end up with utf8 data? | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | to? on output,yes | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | if your view's __call__ returns a unicode string, and the Content-Type header is text/*, zope will encode it to UTF-8 and add "; charset=UTF-8" to the content-type | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | if your view's __call__ returns a byte string, it's your responsibility to specify the correct charset in the content-type header | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | by default page templates return unicode strings when rendered | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | and best practices are to deal with unicode strings internally | 17:39 |
| MrJones | mgedmin: I'm particularly interested in browser>POST form>view/model though, not view/model>template rendering/HTML>browser | 17:40 |
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| mgedmin | okay, looking at source code of zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest now | 17:41 |
| mgedmin | BrowserRequest looks up IUserPreferredCharsets(request).getPreferredCharsets() or ['utf-8'] | 17:41 |
| mgedmin | then loops through those until it can decode the text as unicode | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | if it fails, it leaves you with 8-bit str | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | fun! | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | one implementation of IUserPreferredCharsets | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | looks at the Accept-Charset request header | 17:42 |
| mgedmin | does funky stuff | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | always ensures utf-8 and iso-8859-1 are there (I _think_) | 17:43 |
| mgedmin | fwiw the output side -- the one you're not very interested in -- also uses IUserPreferredCharsets, falling back to UTF-8 | 17:45 |
| MrJones | ok | 17:54 |
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| elro | benji: I'm experimenting with manuel and am finding that each doctest line is counted as a separate test. Is this to be expected? | 18:00 |
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| mgedmin | that used to be the case with zope.testing.doctest; I *hated* it | 18:01 |
| benji | elro: Manuel counts tests differently than stand-alone doctest; I don't remember if it's every line or every doctest block | 18:02 |
| elro | I seem to get (number of doctest >>> lines) + (number of .. test-case: markers) | 18:02 |
| mgedmin | to me a test is something you can enable/disable with zope.testrunner's -t flag | 18:03 |
| mgedmin | you can't do that at the granularity of individual >>> assertions | 18:03 |
| elro | The .. test-case: marker stuff looks really useful, but with one test per line it seems a less useful | 18:04 |
| mgedmin | the progress bar also can't track individual assertions, which means you end up staring at 0/57, 13/57, 22/57, 57/57 when you have four doctest files | 18:04 |
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| mgedmin | hm, maybe the number of assertions has some correlation with running time, in which case that results in a more correct percentage display ... hm | 18:05 |
| benji | I prefer counting more than one test per file. | 18:06 |
| benji | elro: what correlation is there between ".. test-case:" and the numer of reported tests? | 18:08 |
| elro | benji: number of reported tests = N(>>> lines) + N(.. test-case: lines) | 18:08 |
| benji | let me rephrase; why do you think the way "tests" are counted makes ".. test-case:" less useful? | 18:09 |
| elro | From reading the markers section of the manuel docs, I was expecting number of reported tests = N(.. test-case: lines) + 1 | 18:10 |
| benji | then there is a documentation bug; the test-case functionality is unrelated to counting, it is so you can run cases individually (i.e., run only parts of a doctest file) | 18:12 |
| benji | it also lets you do rudamentory test isolation | 18:12 |
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| elro | I guess for me, doc test cases logically span a few lines. I want each of my documented examples to count as a single test | 18:14 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin mgedmin-etag-support * r115666 zope.browserresource/ (6 files in 3 dirs): | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | ETag generation can be customized or disabled by providing an IETag | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | multi-adapter on (IFileResource, your-application-skin). | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin * r115667 zope.browserresource/ (7 files in 3 dirs): | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | Support the HTTP ETag header for file resources. ETag generation can be | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | customized or disabled by providing an IETag multi-adapter on | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | (IFileResource, your-application-skin). | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | Merged mgedmin-etag-support branch with | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | svn merge -r 115595:115666 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.browserresource/branches/mgedmin-etag-support . | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin * r115668 /zope.browserresource/branches/mgedmin-etag-support: This branch was merged to trunk. | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin * r115669 zope.browserresource/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 3.11.0 | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin * r115670 /zope.browserresource/tags/3.11.0: Tagging 3.11.0 | 18:15 |
| CIA-94 | mgedmin * r115671 zope.browserresource/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 3.11.1 | 18:15 |
| elro | benji: if it is only a documentation bug, I don't understand why number of reported tests = N(>>> lines) + N(.. test-case: lines), it looks like double counting. | 18:15 |
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| benji | true, I hadn't intended the test-case: lines to be included; I'll look at fixing that | 18:16 |
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| benji | actually, I'd prefer it if only lines that had output were counted as tests; maybe I can do that | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | why? | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | there are sometimes "this doesn't raise an exception >>> foo.do_something_dangerous()" | 18:27 |
| mgedmin | and "this returns None: >>> foo.get_something_optional()" | 18:27 |
| elro | that setUp and tearDown is called once per marked section, suggests to me that each section should only be one testcase | 18:28 |
| elro | it seems to me that each line in a doctest is more equivalent to a unittest self.assertEqual than a unittest test case | 18:28 |
| mgedmin | (which is my point too) | 18:29 |
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| kosh | so how are you freaks doing today? | 18:29 |
| elro | I can see why zope's doctest went with one testcase per line, but that seems to be just a workaround because it didn't have section markers | 18:30 |
| benji | I can see the reasoning. I prefer that when I add assertions the test count goes up. It's sort of a game mechanic. :) | 18:30 |
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| mgedmin | time for a doctest reporting option? | 18:32 |
| mgedmin | does manuel have those? | 18:32 |
| benji | quite good kosh; it's nice and rainy here (and I have no need to go out) | 18:32 |
| kosh | I wish it would do that here | 18:32 |
| kosh | it is too hot here | 18:32 |
| benji | mgedmin: define "doctest reporting option" | 18:32 |
| kosh | one very important things is don't serve multiple databases from the same zeo server | 18:32 |
| mgedmin | # doctest:+REPORT_NDIFF | 18:32 |
| benji | mgedmin: I'm not a big fan of those; if I were to make this configurable I'd probably define a plugin API and delegate the counting to it and people could count as they see fit | 18:33 |
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| elro | perhaps there could be a manuel.testcase.LineMarkerManuel() to get the one testcase per line behaviour. Without it you get the standard python doctest one per file behaviour | 18:37 |
| benji | right, something like that | 18:38 |
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| benji | elro: will you submit a feature request (blueprint in Launchpad parlance) at https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/manuel? | 18:39 |
| elro | benji: will do. I'll have a play around and see whether I can implement it on a branch | 18:40 |
| benji | that'd be great | 18:41 |
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| planetzopebot | Where is my manage portlets link? (RedTurtle Technology) http://blog.redturtle.it/redturtle-blog/where-is-my-manage-portlets-link | 19:04 |
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| sawdog | who's monitoring zope.org — tis problems; getting a squid error | 20:58 |
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| benji | sawdog: odd, it works for me | 21:08 |
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| sawdog | it did after several more timeouts for me as well | 21:08 |
| sawdog | something's not right though, I sent an email to zope-web with the error..... | 21:09 |
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| CIA-94 | ldr * r115672 /manuel/branches/elro-test-count: branch for test counting experiments | 21:46 |
| CIA-94 | ldr elro-test-count * r115673 manuel/src/manuel/ (README.txt doctest.py): Group contiguous doctest sections as a single test case | 21:46 |
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| elro | benji: I've put my changes up in a branch here: http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/log/manuel/branches/elro-test-count and a blueprint here: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/manuel/+spec/test-count | 22:05 |
| benji | elro: cool; I'll take a look later | 22:06 |
| elro | it reduces the test count from 305 to 90 for manuel itself | 22:06 |
| CIA-94 | ldr elro-test-count * r115674 manuel/src/manuel/ (table-example.txt testing.py __init__.py doctest.py): Regions must be marked countable to be inlcuded in the test count | 22:08 |
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| minskmaz | question about skinning - I'm using zope.schema's form generation which has it's own skin - what would I do in zcml to override this and register it to my custom skin layer ? | 23:36 |
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