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| CIA-94 | baijum * r115640 /bluebream/website/docs/v1.0/ (11 files in 7 dirs): bit cleanup | 05:37 |
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| The_Slip | Hi guys | 06:23 |
| The_Slip | I'm having an issue with my zope instance for kmkey, i hope u can give me a hand | 06:23 |
| The_Slip | imma trying to import a file "kmkey.zexp" | 06:24 |
| The_Slip | But it fails and says | 06:24 |
| The_Slip | Error Value: cannot import name InitializeClass | 06:24 |
| The_Slip | Im Using Zope 2.10 deb package on Debian Lenny | 06:25 |
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| The_Slip | none? =( | 06:27 |
| The_Slip | nonenone? | 06:30 |
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| The_Slip | Hi guys | 06:45 |
| The_Slip | I'm having an issue with my zope instance for kmkey, i hope u can give me a hand | 06:45 |
| The_Slip | imma trying to import a file "kmkey.zexp" | 06:46 |
| The_Slip | But it fails and says | 06:46 |
| The_Slip | Error Value: cannot import name InitializeClass | 06:46 |
| The_Slip | Im Using Zope 2.10 deb package on Debian Lenny | 06:46 |
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| CIA-94 | icemac * r115641 /z3c.recipe.dev/branches/icemac-unix: branch to fix the tests to run on unix | 09:17 |
| CIA-94 | icemac icemac-unix * r115642 z3c.recipe.dev/src/z3c/recipe/dev/ (tests.py README.txt): tests now run on *nix platforms and with current packages | 09:17 |
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| CIA-94 | icemac icemac-unix * r115643 z3c.recipe.dev/CHANGES.txt: added change log for last changes | 09:31 |
| CIA-94 | icemac icemac-unix * r115644 z3c.recipe.dev/src/z3c/ (__init__.py recipe/__init__.py): easier namespace package boilerplate code as described in http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/steeringgroup/decisions.html | 09:31 |
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| CIA-94 | wosc * r115645 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/base.py: format layer name more nicely | 09:50 |
| CIA-94 | icemac icemac-unix * r115646 z3c.recipe.dev/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 09:50 |
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| gypsymauro | hi | 10:30 |
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| gypsymauro | what's the best way to hide zope behind apache? I've apache2 on a machine and zope on another machine, there are examples somewhre? | 10:31 |
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| bigkevmcd | gypsymauro: Rewrite Rules, see http://betabug.ch/zope/witch for help | 10:34 |
| gypsymauro | bigkevmcd: tanx | 10:40 |
| CIA-94 | adamg * r115647 /Sandbox/adamg/zope.wineggbuilder/trunk/master.cfg: update from the server | 10:46 |
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| Taggnostr | hello | 10:52 |
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| Taggnostr | I'm trying to get a complete list of HTMLItems out of a Batch object, but the best I managed to get so far is a list of all the items ids from Batch._sequence | 10:58 |
| Taggnostr | is there some way to get a full list of the object? | 10:59 |
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| CIA-94 | icemac icemac-unix * r115648 z3c.recipe.dev/src/z3c/recipe/dev/README.txt: windows needs "newest = false" otherwise there are distribution not found errors | 11:02 |
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| hever | Can I stop pending actions before a zope start from the console ? | 11:42 |
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| hever | Or can I undo the last action before start ? | 12:12 |
| d2m | hever: what are pending actions? | 12:14 |
| Theuni1 | whats a pending action? | 12:14 |
| hever | not sure ;) | 12:14 |
| Theuni1 | heh | 12:14 |
| hever | I thought there were pending actions that are processed during startup.. | 12:14 |
| hever | I'm not sure about this... | 12:14 |
| d2m | hever: whats your problem? | 12:15 |
| hever | I think I removed something I should not remove and now the server does not restart. | 12:15 |
| d2m | try start it in debug mode and check the traceback at the console | 12:15 |
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| hever | yes I did | 12:16 |
| Taggnostr | is 'modules' supposed to always be available? | 12:16 |
| hever | it's not really helpful | 12:16 |
| d2m | hever: copy it to a pastebin | 12:16 |
| Taggnostr | I tried to use modules['modulename'] in TAL and got a NameError | 12:16 |
| d2m | there is also a file events.log | 12:16 |
| d2m | Taggnostr: why would you need modules['modulename'] in TAL ? | 12:17 |
| CIA-94 | adamg * r115649 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/process/ (winbotsetup.rst buildbots.rst): added overview and developers howto | 12:17 |
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| Taggnostr | basically I have a batch object and I want to check something on *all* the objects of the batch, but I can't find a way to get them. If I use batch._sequence I can get a list of ids, but then I have to turn them in HTMLItems, and the function to do that is in some module | 12:18 |
| d2m | the batch object has an API | 12:19 |
| Taggnostr | I know that this look hackish (it *is* hackish), but I couldn't find any better way to do it | 12:19 |
| hever | d2m, http://pastebin.com/ZvWSHd8h | 12:19 |
| d2m | and this is certainly nothing you should do inside a template | 12:20 |
| Taggnostr | yes, but I couldn't find any way to get a complete list of HTMLItem | 12:20 |
| d2m | hever: did is say debug? i meant developer mode on | 12:20 |
| d2m | like bin/zopectrl fg | 12:21 |
| Taggnostr | (the HTMLItems are created in __getitem__ on the fly, and __getitem__ only allows me to get the elements in the group and not the others) | 12:21 |
| d2m | Taggnostr: i have no idea about HTMLItems | 12:21 |
| Taggnostr | basically it just turns an id in a objects taken from the database | 12:22 |
| Taggnostr | d2m, and I'm doing it in the template because the code where this could go is not mine, and we don't want to make our own fork of it | 12:22 |
| d2m | Taggnostr: why using a batch if you need a complete list? | 12:22 |
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| Taggnostr | the element of the list are grouped and divided on several pages, and I need the complete list to count how many elements there are for each group, and display it at the beginning of each group | 12:23 |
| d2m | write another query and use the results | 12:24 |
| hever | d2m, can't I just rollback a 2.9.9 zodb ? | 12:24 |
| Taggnostr | d2m, how? | 12:24 |
| d2m | hever: no idea what your problem is so far | 12:24 |
| hever | Now I'm getting much 2010-08-12 11:24:46 DEBUG txn.-1209268032 new transaction | 12:25 |
| hever | 2010-08-12 11:24:46 DEBUG txn.-1209268032 commit | 12:25 |
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| d2m | heever, if you start your instance in foreground/developer mode you should get an idea why the server is not starting | 12:26 |
| hever | ok now it's starting ;) | 12:28 |
| hever | I think I was not patient enough... | 12:28 |
| d2m | ok, don't forget to switch back to deploy mode again | 12:29 |
| hever | ;) | 12:29 |
| hever | how do I stop it without terminating it ? | 12:29 |
| hever | I mean a normal shutdown from the fg mode... | 12:29 |
| d2m | CRTL-C in the console or [shutdown] in ZMI | 12:29 |
| Taggnostr | d2m, you mean that I should do an sql query in the templating? | 12:30 |
| d2m | Taggnostr: create a method/script/whatever that computes the values you need | 12:30 |
| d2m | and use it in your template | 12:30 |
| Taggnostr | uhm, I guess I can pass the _sequence to it and let it find out the numbers | 12:31 |
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| hever | d2m, thank you ! | 12:38 |
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| Taggnostr | d2m, thanks for the help, I'll go for a walk and thing about it | 12:47 |
| do3cc | hmm, I am getting sporadic IOError 12 Cannot allocate memory on my server. With lots of free memory | 12:48 |
| do3cc | according to the manpage of malloc that is probably heap corruption | 12:48 |
| do3cc | anybody remembers seeing these things too? | 12:48 |
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| mgedmin | do3cc, I think I've seen those caused by a full process table | 12:59 |
| mgedmin | zdaemon tests leave processes lying around indefinitely | 12:59 |
| mgedmin | after a few months the process ulimit is reached and buildbot starts spewing errors like this | 12:59 |
| mgedmin | buildbots are fun | 12:59 |
| mgedmin | let me double-check if those were ENOMEM errors... | 13:00 |
| mgedmin | nope, but I've seen OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory raised by os.listdir() when the server was actually running out of ram + swap | 13:01 |
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| mgedmin | I don't know where I stashed the buildbot errors ... | 13:03 |
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| mgedmin | 'OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory' from os.fork() is probably another real out-of-memory situation | 13:04 |
| do3cc | mgedmin: Errno 12 is ENOMEM | 13:06 |
| do3cc | and sadly, its not my buildbot but a big productio machine where one instance shows this behav | 13:07 |
| do3cc | Here it happens in the plone control panel, the traceback ends in pkg_resources | 13:08 |
| mgedmin | which syscall produces that error? | 13:08 |
| do3cc | I am just assuming/guessing it, but I look at malloc | 13:08 |
| mgedmin | that would make Python raise MemoryError, I think | 13:09 |
| mgedmin | that last line, in pkg_resources, what does it look like? | 13:09 |
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| do3cc | dammit, my co worker was too quick and restarted the instance | 13:11 |
| do3cc | But I remember that the Error string mentioned a problem on a fake egg | 13:11 |
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| mgedmin | can't you look in the log file? | 13:12 |
| do3cc | doh | 13:13 |
| do3cc | python[31353]: segfault at 0000000000000058 rip 0000000000472495 rsp 0000000040fff0a0 error 4 | 13:13 |
| do3cc | python[26064] general protection rip:2b21eb495a7a rsp:407fcfa0 error:0 | 13:13 |
| mgedmin | I've a few of those in my kern.log | 13:15 |
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| do3cc | I found my tracepack, going to pastie | 13:15 |
| mgedmin | haven't decided if mine are actual python bugs or server hardware faults ... | 13:15 |
| mgedmin | thankfully they're rare | 13:16 |
| do3cc | http://pastie.org/1087981 | 13:17 |
| do3cc | the OSError happens in different places | 13:17 |
| mgedmin | (sanitized tracebacks suck) | 13:17 |
| mgedmin | but this looks exactly like my os.listdir() errors | 13:18 |
| mgedmin | and you say there are lots of free memory? | 13:19 |
| do3cc | yes | 13:19 |
| do3cc | real and swap | 13:19 |
| do3cc | malloc allocates stuff from the heap, if the heap gets corrupted this error message can come too | 13:20 |
| do3cc | but if the heap gets corrupted, the server should die pretty quick | 13:20 |
| mgedmin | right | 13:20 |
| mgedmin | and I've seen glibc heap corruption messages | 13:20 |
| mgedmin | they're not nice and fluffy like Python exceptions | 13:20 |
| do3cc | ok | 13:21 |
| do3cc | good | 13:21 |
| mgedmin | how much is "a lot" of free memory? | 13:21 |
| mgedmin | I think I got the errors when there was still a bit of free memory left to prevent the kernel's OOM killer from showing up | 13:22 |
| do3cc | 525 Meg Free @ swap 4246 Meg | 13:22 |
| do3cc | and 5136 Meg Cached | 13:22 |
| MadRobot | Hi all. | 13:22 |
| do3cc | from my limited understanding that means that of real memory are 5.5 Gig of the 15 Gig available | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | that does look like a lot of free memory ... | 13:23 |
| do3cc | and we don't have ulimit set | 13:23 |
| mgedmin | could you be running out of file descriptors? | 13:24 |
| mgedmin | do you have collectd or cacti on that server? | 13:24 |
| do3cc | nope, not yet | 13:25 |
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| do3cc | 0 free file descriptors | 13:26 |
| do3cc | hmm, no | 13:28 |
| do3cc | whats a good way to see the free file descripters? | 13:29 |
| do3cc | I shouldnt be able to cat with 0 free ones | 13:29 |
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| mgedmin | I recommend collectd | 13:34 |
| mgedmin | sudo apt-get install collectd and then you can forget about it | 13:34 |
| mgedmin | no graphing right out of the box, but there's a sample cgi script you can hook up with apache pretty easily | 13:34 |
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| mgedmin | re file descriptors -- I'm a bit fuzzy myself | 13:35 |
| mgedmin | lsof? | 13:35 |
| do3cc | zope@deimos7:/proc/sys/fs$ cat file-nr | 13:35 |
| do3cc | 256001573595 | 13:35 |
| do3cc | the 0 should be the available, but that cant be | 13:35 |
| mgedmin | maybe cat used up the last ones ;) | 13:35 |
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| mgedmin | nah, it's 0 here as well | 13:36 |
| mgedmin | google tells me the middle number is "allocated but unused" | 13:37 |
| do3cc | seems that my own munin does not tell me file handles either | 13:37 |
| mgedmin | file-nr has: allocated, allocated-but-unused, maximum | 13:38 |
| mgedmin | per-process ulimit is more likely to have been exhausted; it's 1024 by default on my machine | 13:38 |
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| do3cc | according to ulimit, there are no limits | 13:39 |
| mgedmin | and according to open(2) the error would've been EMFILE rather than ENOMEM | 13:39 |
| do3cc | oh, and I am just seeing the error code for running out of file handles is 24 | 13:39 |
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| mgedmin | do3cc, could you find your copy of pkg_resources.py and see what's happening in line 1700? | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | these are interesting bugs: http://bugs.python.org/issue3115 | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | and http://bugs.python.org/issue1608818 | 13:42 |
| mgedmin | a very similar traceback in pkg_resources here: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6467 | 13:43 |
| do3cc | its a listdir | 13:43 |
| mgedmin | which python version do you have? | 13:44 |
| do3cc | python2.4 | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | well, it was fixed in 2.5.1 | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | or 2.5.2 | 13:44 |
| mgedmin | I'm not sure | 13:44 |
| do3cc | just reading 3115 and thinking wtf | 13:45 |
| do3cc | i guess thats it | 13:46 |
| do3cc | thanks mgedmin! | 13:46 |
| do3cc | now /me wonders how malloc can sometimes set errno | 13:49 |
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| mgedmin | have a go at it: http://repo.or.cz/w/glibc.git/blob/HEAD:/malloc/malloc.c | 13:52 |
| do3cc | no codepath that setts errno and returning a valid pointer | 13:56 |
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| do3cc | I think I leave it to that. that happens when you use software so old that its out of the maintenance cycle ;-) | 13:57 |
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| mgedmin | you could always upgrade to zope 2.12 on python 2.5 or something like that | 14:00 |
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| do3cc | yes, I migrate my plone3.3 to zope2.12 and see what happens | 14:01 |
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| sm | do we by any chance have a @tell bot for offline #zope users.. | 15:55 |
| sm | I guess not | 15:56 |
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| mgedmin | there's msgserv | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | sorry, memoserv | 15:59 |
| mgedmin | /msg memoserv help send | 15:59 |
| sm | oh, neat | 16:00 |
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| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees 1.6 * r115650 Products.PluggableAuthService/Products/PluggableAuthService/plugins/ (CookieAuthHelper.py tests/test_CookieAuthHelper.py): Fixed possible TypeError in extractCredentials of CookieAuthHelper when the __ac cookie is not ours (but e.g. from plone.session, though even then only in a corner case). | 17:58 |
| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees * r115651 Products.PluggableAuthService/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 17:58 |
| CIA-94 | Merge r115650 from branches/1.6: | 17:58 |
| CIA-94 | Fixed possible TypeError in extractCredentials of CookieAuthHelper when the __ac cookie is not ours | 17:58 |
| CIA-94 | (but e.g. from plone.session, though even then only in a corner case). | 17:58 |
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| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees * r115652 Products.PluggableAuthService/ (CHANGES.txt Products/PluggableAuthService/version.txt): | 18:25 |
| CIA-94 | Fixed CHANGES.txt: my previous entry should have been under a new heading for 1.7.2. | 18:25 |
| CIA-94 | Upped version.txt to 1.7.2. | 18:25 |
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| MrJones | hi | 20:09 |
| MrJones | NotFound: Object: <zope.site.folder.Folder object at 0xb67941ac>, name: u'hello' | 20:09 |
| MrJones | where does zope store those objects? | 20:09 |
| MrJones | the reference that is | 20:10 |
| MrJones | since the original object file is gone, as can be seen :P | 20:10 |
| MrJones | I'm messing around with zodb a bit (it's not so bad if it can't be restored, I can reinstall), so if someone could hint me to the file that keeps those references, I'd like to take a look at it | 20:10 |
| MrJones | should be zope 3 | 20:10 |
| Moo^_^ | MrJones: can you post full traceback to pastie.org and related code? | 20:11 |
| Moo^_^ | it is little hard to figure out what you are asking | 20:11 |
| MrJones | well, I can probably better explain that by telling you what I removed: | 20:12 |
| MrJones | I removed the contents of the /var/ folder where the zodb does have the object file storage on disk | 20:12 |
| MrJones | now it still seems to have another file where it saved that the "hello" object is in its storage, and tries to load it from there and fails | 20:12 |
| MrJones | I'm wondering where that place is where it still saved something about this object | 20:12 |
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| MrJones | (I restarted zope/paster and everything, so shouldn't be from memory) | 20:13 |
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| MrJones | Moo^_^: ok wait, I'll paste the traceback | 20:16 |
| MrJones | http://pastebin.com/s4C4ZJJy | 20:17 |
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| Moo^_^ | MrJones: did you restart after delete? | 20:18 |
| MrJones | Moo^_^: yea | 20:18 |
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| MrJones | I restarted paster, which I assume restarts zope aswell? | 20:19 |
| MrJones | I don't know whether zope runs in a separate process | 20:19 |
| MrJones | or the zodb | 20:19 |
| Moo^_^ | MrJones: be hardcore and check whether there is a process you can kill manually | 20:19 |
| MrJones | lol ok :D | 20:19 |
| Moo^_^ | MrJones: because if you delete data.fs and it is open in process the process is not affected in UNIX | 20:19 |
| MrJones | nope, nothing there | 20:20 |
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| MrJones | Moo^_^: does zope maybe have some cache files outside /var/ ? | 20:25 |
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| Moo^_^ | MrJones: there should be only one Data.fs file with the default set-up as far as I know | 20:26 |
| Moo^_^ | MrJones: try asking on #grok | 20:26 |
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| CIA-94 | baijum * r115653 bluebream/src/bluebream/bluebream_base/tests/bluebream.txt: Fix test failure due to missing etc/overrides.zcml | 20:38 |
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| CIA-94 | tseaver * r115654 Products.GenericSetup/ (Products/GenericSetup/version.txt docs/CHANGES.rst): Prep 1.6.2 release. | 21:22 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r115655 /Products.GenericSetup/tags/1.6.2: Prep 1.6.2 release. | 21:22 |
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| CIA-94 | tseaver * r115656 Products.PluggableAuthService/ (3 files in 3 dirs): | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Trap "swallowable" exceptions from ``IRoles`` plugins. | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Thanks to + Willi Langenburger for the patch. | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Fixes https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-pas/+bug/615474 | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | tseaver * r115657 Products.PluggableAuthService/Products/PluggableAuthService/PluggableAuthService.py: | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Tidying: | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Clean up external imports. | 22:17 |
| _mup_ | Bug #615474: Missing try/except to save PAS from faulty IRoles Plugins <Zope PAS:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/615474> | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Make local importe explicit. | 22:17 |
| CIA-94 | Wrap long lines. | 22:17 |
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| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees * r115658 Products.PluggableAuthService/Products/PluggableAuthService/plugins/CookieAuthHelper.py: Fixed my fix of earlier today in CookieAuthHelper.extractCredentials by making sure we do not return a half filled dictionary when the password decode fails. | 23:04 |
| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees 1.6 * r115659 Products.PluggableAuthService/Products/PluggableAuthService/plugins/CookieAuthHelper.py: Fixed my fix of earlier today in CookieAuthHelper.extractCredentials by making sure we do not return a half filled dictionary when the password decode fails. | 23:04 |
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| CIA-94 | mauritsvanrees * r115660 Products.GenericSetup/docs/CHANGES.rst: Fixed typo in history. Fool of a Took? | 23:18 |
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