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| makkalot | hi icreated my project with zopeproject, and want to override my skin and put mine as default, i created in src/myproject/etc/myproject-overrides.zcml and put in it my overrides file's place. I have in overrides.zcml : <browser:defaultSkin name="WorldCookery"/> but when i open site dont see any changes any ideas ? | 00:22 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117780 relstorage/ (16 files in 4 dirs): Checkpoint: optionally put blobs in the database. Some tests pass. :-) | 01:01 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117781 relstorage/relstorage/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Now all but 3 tests pass. | 03:18 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117781 relstorage/relstorage/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Now all but 3 tests pass. | 03:31 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117783 /relstorage/branches/1.4: Used the 1.4.0 tag to make the 1.4 branch | 05:11 |
| CIA-38 | shane * r117784 relstorage/relstorage/ (4 files in 2 dirs): The tests of the new blob storage and cache now pass on Postgres and MySQL | 05:11 |
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| CIA-38 | icemac * r117785 z3c.securitytool/ (8 files in 3 dirs): - Updated tests, test setup and demo app to run with ZTK 1.0 on Python 2.4 and Python 2.6. | 10:11 |
| CIA-38 | icemac * r117786 z3c.securitytool/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): - Updated to `z3c.layer.minimal` instead of deprecated `z3c.layer`. | 10:11 |
| CIA-38 | icemac * r117787 z3c.securitytool/src/z3c/securitytool/tests.py: removed not needed imports | 10:11 |
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| CIA-38 | icemac * r117788 z3c.securitytool/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy. | 10:40 |
| CIA-38 | shane * r117789 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/schema.py: fixed Oracle syntax | 10:40 |
| CIA-38 | shane * r117790 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/schema.py: Corrected Oracle data type | 10:40 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117791 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/mover.py: fixed more Oracle syntax | 11:01 |
| CIA-38 | gotcha * r117792 gocept.selenium/ (8 files in 6 dirs): use plone.testing as it allows to run zope2 and plone tests together | 11:01 |
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| janolap1 | Hi, we have acquired a software which relies on Zope and ZoDB. We want to access ZoDB database from external tools like access or php for example. Is it possible ? Is it possible to make a dump from ZoDB to import into mysql ? | 11:09 |
| bigkevmcd | no, and yes | 11:09 |
| betabug | yes and no | 11:09 |
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| agroszer | janolap1, it won't be easy ZODB is an object database, while mysql is RDB | 11:24 |
| agroszer | I'd say you definitely will need some custom script/app | 11:24 |
| CIA-38 | shane * r117793 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/mover.py: use Oracle-specific blob operations | 11:25 |
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| CIA-38 | shane * r117794 relstorage/relstorage/adapters/ (oracle.py mover.py): The tests pass. Oracle can now store blobs in the database. | 12:17 |
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| janolap1 | agroszer : Thanx for your answer. | 12:53 |
| janolap1 | agroszer : Is it more simple to migrate the database from ZoDB to mysql and make Zope access to mysql via connector ? | 12:54 |
| janolap1 | Is it more simple to migrate the database from ZoDB to mysql and make Zope access to mysql via connector ? | 12:57 |
| betabug | janolap1: ZODB is an object database, there is no "simple" way to translate its contents to an SQL database | 12:58 |
| janolap1 | betabug : I know that it is not simple, but for our need, how can we access data inside ZoDB from outside Zope ? | 12:59 |
| betabug | all access has to go through python | 12:59 |
| betabug | since ZODB is written in python | 13:00 |
| d2m | janolap1: consider using XMLRPC for access | 13:00 |
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| bigkevmcd | or plain old web requests | 13:00 |
| betabug | the simplest option is to have zope running and (as d2m said) have it expose the data in the way you need it | 13:00 |
| d2m | btw, i did export zodb contents to mysql nativ dump format, should be no no problem | 13:01 |
| bigkevmcd | it's fairly easy to do a one-time dump | 13:01 |
| janolap1 | betabug : The company gives us some reports but we can't ask a new report for every need... | 13:02 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: they charge you for reports? | 13:02 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : yes | 13:02 |
| bigkevmcd | it's your data tho', right? | 13:02 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : yes it's our data, but we don't have any skill in zope. | 13:04 |
| bigkevmcd | you would essentially need to write something to walk the object tree, dump out some representation of the data (CSV, SQL etc), and then have that read into the database of your choice | 13:05 |
| janolap1 | So I would like to transfert the structure of the database (tables, fileds) and data for example in a sql dump format to import it in a database that we can use (oracle, mssql, mysql, access, ...) | 13:05 |
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| bigkevmcd | there are no tables | 13:05 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : and this don't exists in zope ? | 13:05 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: what "don't exists in zope" ? | 13:05 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: tables? | 13:06 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : the script to walk the object tree, ... | 13:06 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: it's specialised | 13:06 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: different for each use | 13:06 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: without knowing your objects, it's hard to estimate what the SQL/CSV representation of them would be | 13:06 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : and if we want to add some data, the script will need to be updated ? | 13:06 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: where do you want to add it? | 13:07 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: to your local copy of the database, or the ZODB ? | 13:07 |
| alga | janolap1: look at findObjectsProviding | 13:07 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : (sorry some structure to add new data type) | 13:07 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: you'd need to update the dump script to express your new data type in the same output format | 13:09 |
| janolap1 | alga : I don't know much about zope, I just want to access the data (from the database) from outside zope. Do you think the copany could make us something we can run in a cron for example and which would dump data . | 13:09 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: They should be able to, it's just a case of mapping objects to CSV/SQL | 13:09 |
| bigkevmcd | I've done it to Python scripts before, it's fairly easy | 13:10 |
| alga | janolap1: which company? | 13:10 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : So to be more simple, I suggest to transfert the relationnal data inside mysql and ask the company to point to mysql instead of zodb... | 13:10 |
| janolap1 | alga : a french company. | 13:10 |
| alga | it certainly is doable | 13:10 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: what relational data? | 13:10 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: you have external data that you want to view in Zope? | 13:11 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : no we have data that we would like to view from outside zope. | 13:11 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: there is _no_ relational data in Zope | 13:11 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: Zope is not a relational database | 13:11 |
| alga | janolap1: more likely you would get an XML export of an agreed format and insert it into an RDBMS youself | 13:11 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : ok, but our datas are relataionnals datas, but they are not stored in a relationnal way in zodb (which is an object database). | 13:12 |
| bigkevmcd | janolap1: are you sure they're not just pulling data from an external SQL database? | 13:13 |
| janolap1 | alga : Yes, we have suggest it. | 13:13 |
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| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : I don't actually know... | 13:13 |
| janolap1 | Oh, it's lunch time. | 13:13 |
| d2m | heh | 13:13 |
| janolap1 | I have to go. I'll discuss with you if you want to after a good lunch... | 13:14 |
| janolap1 | thank you for all your answer ! | 13:14 |
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| makkalot | hi i'm using broswer:viewletManager in my configuration file but got ConfigurationError: ('Unknown directive', u'http://namespaces.zope.org/browser', u'viewletManager') | 14:55 |
| makkalot | is it deprecated ? | 14:55 |
| janolap1 | I'm back ! | 14:55 |
| janolap1 | bigkevmcd : can you tell me how I can see if they use a sql database ? | 14:56 |
| mgedmin | makkalot, have you got the right meta.zcml included? | 14:57 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: i dont know how can i check it ? | 14:59 |
| makkalot | it doesnt mention about it in the book | 15:00 |
| janolap1 | I'm really knew to zope, so my question is a newbie one : in the Zope directories, where are the sources of applications : bin, include, lib, plone, zope ? | 15:00 |
| janolap1 | I've found it : plone ! | 15:01 |
| mgedmin | makkalot, welcome to the wonderful world of Zope | 15:02 |
| mgedmin | makkalot, what version of zope are you using? | 15:02 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: i guess i'm using the latest checked with buildout and zopeproject | 15:03 |
| mgedmin | ok, zopeproject | 15:03 |
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| mgedmin | basically, you need to include zope.viewlet's zcml | 15:04 |
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| mgedmin | wheee, zopeproject fails for me --- version conflict, we already have zc.buildout 1.5.2, it doesn't say which version it wants | 15:05 |
| mgedmin | why am I still involved with this? | 15:05 |
| mgedmin | so, I have no time to waste on zopeproject | 15:05 |
| mgedmin | what you need is: mention zope.viewlet in your setup.py, among install_requires | 15:06 |
| mgedmin | have your site zcml <include package="zope.viewlet" /> | 15:06 |
| mgedmin | maybe also have your site zcml <include package="zope.viewlet" file="meta.zcml" />; I'm not sure | 15:06 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: ok wil give a try | 15:07 |
| mgedmin | do you know where your site.zcml is? probably defined in buildout.cfg | 15:07 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: i included <include package="zope.viewlet" file="meta.zcml" /> into site.zcml and didnt work | 15:09 |
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| mgedmin | let me check what zope.viewlet defines | 15:10 |
| mgedmin | yeah | 15:11 |
| mgedmin | did you re-run bin/buildout? | 15:11 |
| makkalot | rerruninng now | 15:11 |
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| makkalot | added to setup.py zope.viewlet and included into site.zcml <include package="zope.viewlet" /> and <include package="zope.viewlet" file="meta.zcml" /> | 15:14 |
| makkalot | doest order matter in site.zcml ? | 15:15 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: | 15:15 |
| mgedmin | order matters | 15:18 |
| mgedmin | generally all meta's come first | 15:18 |
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| janolap1 | exit | 15:30 |
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| makkalot | mgedmin: worked put the meta at the top of the config | 15:32 |
| mgedmin | yay | 15:32 |
| makkalot | mgedmin: thanks | 15:33 |
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| makkalot | i'm trying to put my own viewletmanagers but i got that error when use them in my macros : <class 'zope.tal.taldefs.TALError'>: Unrecognized expression type "provider". in expression u'provider:worldcookery.Toolbar' | 16:12 |
| makkalot | any ideas ? | 16:12 |
| sylvain | include zope.contentprovider zcml | 16:14 |
| makkalot | sylvain: ok trying | 16:15 |
| makkalot | sylvain: thanks worked | 16:17 |
| makkalot | it is very nice to get answers form that channel, it was a dead place before 2,3 years ago :) | 16:19 |
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| makkalot | how can i enable ftp server on zope3, in book it says i should add a <server ftp> to zope.conf i added but got : Error: unknown type name: 'server' | 16:59 |
| d2m | which book? | 17:00 |
| makkalot | web component development with z3 | 17:00 |
| makkalot | d2m: | 17:00 |
| agroszer | makkalot, that does not work with paster | 17:00 |
| makkalot | agroszer: so what are my options ? | 17:01 |
| agroszer | getting zserver to work is not so easy... do you really need to serve FTP? | 17:01 |
| makkalot | agroszer: no i want to test adapters in book from ftp | 17:03 |
| agroszer | lemme open my book | 17:05 |
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| agroszer | makkalot, file representation? | 17:07 |
| makkalot | agroszer: yes | 17:07 |
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| agroszer | I think the best would be now really to get an older Z3 for this | 17:09 |
| agroszer | unless you're good with buildout and recipes | 17:10 |
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| makkalot | agroszer: i'm at chapter 13 and all stuff worked good with little touches | 17:11 |
| agroszer | I got that | 17:12 |
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| agroszer | the problem is that I think zopeproject uses paster | 17:13 |
| agroszer | because nowadays people are happy with HTTP only requests | 17:13 |
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| makkalot | i see | 17:15 |
| agroszer | makkalot, basically you need to switch the paster recipe in buildout for e.g. an z3c.recipe.dev | 17:15 |
| mgedmin | what about zc.zope3recipes? | 17:15 |
| agroszer | that might work too | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | how do they compare? | 17:16 |
| agroszer | zc.zope3recipes seem to wipe the logs on re-buildout | 17:16 |
| agroszer | and it uses zdaemon | 17:16 |
| agroszer | bit more complex-ish than z3c.recipe.dev | 17:16 |
| mgedmin | ok | 17:17 |
| mgedmin | but then again zdaemon might be something that you want | 17:17 |
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| agroszer | spec. on windows I did NOT want that ;-) | 17:18 |
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| agroszer | btw mgedmin do you know why std list's lost permission declarations for me with ZTK 1.0? | 17:19 |
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| agroszer | I get ForbiddenAttribute: ('__iter__', ['...', '...']) | 17:20 |
| agroszer | when the list gets proxied | 17:20 |
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| agroszer | how to declare security for builtin classes? | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | zope.security has a list of those, I think ... | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | are you sure that's a real list? | 17:23 |
| mgedmin | reprs can be deceiving sometimes | 17:24 |
| agroszer | no, I'm not sure | 17:24 |
| agroszer | lemme check | 17:24 |
| agroszer | bugger it's a PersistentList | 17:26 |
| agroszer | sorry for the noise | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | still, no __iter__ for PersistentList? | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | looks like an oversight | 17:27 |
| agroszer | it's in zope.app.security | 17:27 |
| mgedmin | ah | 17:27 |
| agroszer | but it's like a skeleton of lots of BBB imports | 17:27 |
| agroszer | mgedmin, including zope.app.security helps, thx for the lead | 17:30 |
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