IRC log of #zope for Thursday, 2010-11-18

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spavanHi all08:04
spavanany about having idea regarding Autolance zope product08:05
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spavanhi08:11
spavanAutolance can any one explain08:12
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koshwhat is autolance?08:25
spavankosh:http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/AutoLance08:26
spavankosh:but i require more information08:27
koshah I have never used anything like that, it is not a problem I have ever run into08:27
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CIA-82icemac * r118454 z3ext.cssregistry/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py src/z3ext/cssregistry/tests.py):10:06
CIA-82- Made tests compatible with ``zope.browserresource`` 3.11, thus requiring at least this version.10:06
CIA-82- There are currently some strage test failures. Maybe the same problem as in ``z3c.zrtresource`` on which this package depends on.10:06
CIA-82icemac * r118455 z3ext.cssregistry/ (LICENSE.txt COPYRIGHT.txt): Conform to repository policy.10:06
CIA-82icemac * r118456 z3ext.formatter/ (LICENSE.txt COPYRIGHT.txt): Conform to repository policy.10:06
CIA-82icemac * r118457 z3ext.layout/ (CHANGES.txt src/z3ext/layout/pagelet.txt): fixed tests10:06
CIA-82icemac * r118458 z3ext.layout/ (COPYRIGHT.txt LICENSE.txt): Conform to repository policy.10:06
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CIA-82janwijbrand * r118459 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: version is 1.1 not 1.1.0; the update-releaseinfo script breaks on this12:03
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CIA-82janwijbrand * r118460 /zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ (meeting-20101109.rst index.rst): minutes of ztk releaseteam meeting 11/0912:18
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brguedeshello everybody12:20
brguedessomeone can help me12:20
brguedesI'm trying to import other python scripts inside external python method12:20
betabugbrguedes: I've read that stuff yesterday12:20
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betabugyou made a real mess, just stop (ab)using external methods for this12:20
betabugmake yourself a simple python product12:21
brguedesbetabug: ahh ok12:22
spavansomeone can help me i am i have installed Autolance to zope nodes to get restart12:22
spavanwhen the zope nodes gets restart the cpu utilization is 100% usage y is it so can any one tell12:23
brguedesI thought that external python methods are better than zope python scripts12:23
spavani have set to 400mb size12:23
betabugbrguedes: not "python scripts", python *Products*, on the file system12:23
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brguedesbetabug: ahh ok12:27
brguedesthanks a lot12:28
betabugno problem12:28
koshI would retune the cache and other stuff about your application so that it does not need to be restarted12:29
koshzope is very stable in terms of memory usage12:30
koshif you need to auto restart it you have a problem in general and autorestaring is not the answer12:30
betabugyeah12:30
betabugsometimes you have to do these things on a production site, till you get things in working order... but no way is this something that should be left unchecked12:31
koshI am looking forward to getting my blob migration stuff done then I can massively increase my cache size since all the blobs will be evicted12:31
koshwell so far the number one thing I have found that lowered memory usage was I used PIL to make sure that all images uploaded even if they are not resized they are resaved12:31
koshso 2MB images dropped to a a few hundred K for the exact same size and quality12:32
koshso that helped a lot12:32
betabugimages that random people upload?12:32
koshyes12:32
betabugyeah, that's always a problem12:32
koshcustomers upload images for products etc12:33
betabughere I deal with images for print production, can't touch them!12:33
koshI also have a thing to set maximum image dimensions and format and can resave on upload for that12:33
koshwhich makes an even bigger difference12:33
koshand I made all these changes retroactive12:34
betabuga big pack later, the data.fs came down in size12:34
koshso I ran an update recently to resave it all12:35
koshyeah it cut the size down a lot, one systems went from 1.2G to .2G12:35
koshmost only dropped a few hundred megs though but I can get more out of them later12:36
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koshI don't think I have had a zope server grow massively in memory size or crash in many years now12:43
CIA-82wosc janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118461 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/ (5 files in 5 dirs):12:48
CIA-82Remove ``switch_db`` contract, since it is the exception rather than the rule12:48
CIA-82The ztk/ and grok/ Layers need it, but the others (zope2/plone/static) don't,12:48
CIA-82and we can just as well do this work in the Layer.testSetUp or TestCase.setUp (depending on where it's needed)12:48
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CIA-82janwijbrand * r118462 zopetoolkit/zopeapp.cfg: moving zope.app.* packages to deprecated list, except of the few currently still in use by Grok13:52
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planetzopebotGetting broken objects out of ZODB (Mock It!)  http://mockit.blogspot.com/2010/11/getting-broken-objects-out-of-zodb.html15:04
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waldiwhat is a way to save informations for a complete subtree, that can be easily looked up without using zope 2 acquisition? i don't think that using utilities is correct15:36
betabugwat?15:37
betabugerr... what?15:37
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CIA-82janjaapdriessen * r118463 zope.app.wsgi/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Preparing release 3.10.015:48
CIA-82janjaapdriessen * r118464 /zope.app.wsgi/tags/3.10.0: Tagging 3.10.015:48
CIA-82janjaapdriessen * r118465 zope.app.wsgi/ (CHANGES.txt setup.py): Back to development: 3.10.115:48
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118466 hurry.zoperesource/ (setup.py buildout.cfg): Use released zope.app.wsgi instead of trunk.15:48
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-hurry.resource * r118467 grokproject/grokproject/template/buildout.cfg_tmpl: Use released zope.app.wsgi instead of trunk.15:48
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waldibetabug: the implementation i checked uses utilities to solve this problem ...15:52
betabugwaldi: I haven't understood the problem yet - your description is a bit confusing15:52
waldibetabug: currently I use properties in the zope 2 objects. this properties can be overwritten somewhere below in the object tree and retreived via acquisition15:56
betabugok15:57
betabugwhat's wrong with that?15:57
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