IRC log of #zope for Wednesday, 2010-11-17

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TresEquis*if* client and server share a blobdir, then obviously they must have compatible write permissions00:39
TresEquisin practice, this means running as the same user00:40
TresEquisif they don't share, then client has to fetch blobs added by other clients over ZEO protocol, which is typically painful compared to SAN00:41
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CIA-82icemac * r118431 z3c.zrtresource/ (CHANGES.txt src/z3c/zrtresource/
CIA-82- Made tests compatible with ``zope.browserresource`` 3.11, thus requiring at least this version.09:32
CIA-82- One test fails surprisingly, maybe custom ZRT commands are currently broken.09:32
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prinzdezibelMorning. Can somebody tell me why in zcml views and local grants work with a simple permission statement for the whole object, whereas the underlying security mechanisms works with permissions for read/write for every attribute on the object? E.g. What does it mean, if I grant a local permission to a annotable object? Which attributes are affected by this?09:40
woscprinzdezibel: IIRC the ZCML <grant> applies to either an explicit list of attributes or an interface09:41
woscin the latter case, all attributes of the interface are affected09:42
prinzdezibelyes, for the class directive. but not for the page permission, AFAIK09:42
woscso you'd need to look up IAnnotatable (or something)09:42
woscah, do you mean <browser:page for="..." class=... permission=...>?09:43
prinzdezibelwosc: yes09:43
woscthat applies to the *view*09:43
prinzdezibelyes. but to which attribute?09:44
prinzdezibelWhat does this mean, permission to "use " the view09:44
prinzdezibelthe __call__ method?09:44
woscI'm not sure about the details09:44
woscI guess it must be __init__ and __call__09:44
prinzdezibelin ZMI I can grant local grants. I have no clue what that really does under the hood09:45
woscno clue about ZMI09:45
prinzdezibelconcerning the object the permission requirements are declared for.09:45
woscI'd look in one of zope.publisher,, if I wanted to know the details about the view stuff09:46
prinzdezibelwosc: ok. need to dig.09:46
prinzdezibelwosc: thank you09:46
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woscnp, sorry I can't tell you more09:46
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CIA-82icemac * r118432 z3checkins/ (4 files in 2 dirs):10:03
CIA-82- Declated all required install dependencies.10:03
CIA-82- Added test extra to declare test dependency on ````.10:03
CIA-82- Made sure functional tests are run.10:03
CIA-82- Fixed test set up to run with ZTK 1.0.10:03
CIA-82icemac * r118433 z3checkins/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy.10:03
CIA-82icemac * r118434 z3ext.cacheheaders/ (COPYRIGHT.txt LICENSE.txt): Conform to repository policy.10:03
CIA-82icemac * r118435 zope.browserresource/buildout.cfg: currently depends on not yet released zope.security10:03
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CIA-82icemac * r118436 z3ext.controlpanel/ (3 files in 2 dirs): - Updated test set up to run with ZTK 1.0.10:59
CIA-82icemac * r118437 z3ext.controlpanel/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Conform to repository policy.10:59
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CIA-82icemac * r118438 z3c.zrtresource/CHANGES.txt: typo11:21
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CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118439 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/ Simpler code for picking up settings from the environment.16:34
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CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118440 gocept.selenium/ztk.cfg: Ignore grok and wsgi dirs17:33
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118441 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/static/ Added conditional logging support to the static layer. The host and port are taken from the base layer17:33
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118442 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/ztk/ Take the host and port from the base layer.17:33
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CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118443 gocept.selenium/buildout.cfg: Sane buildout.cfg from which the different configurations can inherit17:48
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118444 gocept.selenium/ (static.cfg ztk.cfg wsgi.cfg grok.cfg): Extend from buildout.cfg. Add auto-color test runner option.17:48
mgedminyay, someone else also likes colourful test runs17:50
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118445 gocept.selenium/src/gocept/selenium/ztk/tests/ Fix test after making host/port dynamic.18:03
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CIA-82janjaapdriessen * r118446 /Sandbox/janjaapdriessen/buildbot/buildout.cfg: Add gocept.selenium branch to buildbot.18:19
CIA-82janjaapdriessen janjaapdriessen-wsgi * r118447 gocept.selenium/grok.cfg: Added missing extends buildout.cfg18:19
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brguedeshello everybodu21:00
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brguedesI've a python external method, which import other python methods, however when I need to change something on the other methods, it is necessary to reload zope21:02
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brguedesIs there a way to when I save the external method, import again the other scripts?21:04
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brguedesor inside external python methods, it is not possible to change the dependecies (other python scripts imported inside), once imported, it will just import when restart21:07
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brguedessomeone can help me?21:09
mgedminbrguedes, it's been ages since I used zope 221:10
mgedminthere's a ZMI page that causes zope to reload an external method, isn't it?21:10
mgedminif you do that for all the dependencies manually, do they get the new method?21:10
brguedesmgedmin: I use Zope 221:11
brguedesI do it manually21:11
brguedesbut just refresh the external method21:11
brguedese.g.: if the external method calls a21:12
brguedescalls A21:12
mgedminexternal methods aren't really suitable for serious development21:12
brguedesand inside A we import another python script B21:13
brguedesif you change something on B21:13
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brguedesand manually update the external method21:13
brguedesB will not update21:14
mgedminwhile you're developing, you can change to do "import B; reload(B)", then when you update A in the ZMI, it'll get the new B21:14
mgedminwhen you're done, I'd remove the reload() call21:14
brguedesI try: "import general; reload (general)"21:17
brguedesmgedmin: doesn't work21:17
mgedminhm, that's a shame, it was such a good idea21:21
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brguedesmgedmin: thanks anyway21:22
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koshhmm for external methods I thought that zope still supported a devel mode where it reloaded them fresh on every access21:58
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brguedesso...anyone can help me with external python methods?22:00
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CIA-82hannosch 1.0 * r118448 zopetoolkit/ztk-versions.cfg: Various bug fix updates22:58
CIA-82hannosch 1.0 * r118449 zopetoolkit/zopeapp-versions.cfg: One more bug fix update22:58
CIA-82hannosch 1.0 * r118450 zopetoolkit/index.rst: Update docs to mention the final 1.0 release22:58
CIA-82hannosch * r118451 /zopetoolkit/tags/1.0.1: Tagged 1.0.122:58
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CIA-82hannosch 2.13 * r118452 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg): Updated to Zope Toolkit
CIA-82hannosch * r118453 Zope/ (doc/CHANGES.rst versions.cfg): Merged c118452 from 2.13 branch23:20
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