| CIA-82 | regebro regebro-python3 * r118519 zc.buildout/ (24 files in 3 dirs): Remade loads of prints in doctests. | 00:03 |
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| kosh | betabug: wake up! | 03:54 |
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| betabug | kosh: sup? | 09:42 |
| betabug | I'll be at the office in 20 minutes | 09:43 |
| kosh | oh you are awake | 09:44 |
| kosh | I am currently making a patch for OFS.Image for Files and Images to save as blobs and I am planning to do sendfile support for it next | 09:45 |
| kosh | do you think that would be an interesting product for me to make available? | 09:45 |
| kosh | I already have it so I added a new method for Images and Files to have them resave their existing data to a blob | 09:45 |
| kosh | on my initial tests it is much faster then serving from the zodb and much less memory usage | 09:46 |
| kosh | seems to be about 4x faster or more then serving the same data from the zodb but no added memory usage | 09:48 |
| kosh | I just took one system from 1.5G to 430M zodb with the rest as blob :) | 09:49 |
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| betabug | kosh: cool stuff! | 10:04 |
| betabug | is it something that could be done with a product or should it be integrated into zope source? | 10:04 |
| kosh | it could be done as a monkey patch just fine | 10:05 |
| kosh | integrated in would probably be better but that is probably a LOT more work | 10:05 |
| betabug | ah, yeah | 10:05 |
| betabug | also with a product that does a monkey patch, it would work with older zope versions too | 10:05 |
| kosh | but if I can get a fully working monkey patch done at least then I could have people look at it and see if they have ideas to make it better | 10:05 |
| betabug | well, I think it would be really interesting | 10:05 |
| kosh | should work for 2.11 - 2.13 I think | 10:06 |
| betabug | yeah, that too | 10:06 |
| betabug | cool | 10:06 |
| kosh | prior to that there was no blob support | 10:06 |
| betabug | I have one DB that could profit a lot from this :-) | 10:06 |
| betabug | right | 10:06 |
| betabug | and you're taking it one step further by integrating standard image objects and blogs | 10:06 |
| kosh | well I will have to put up a preliminary version in the next few days that you could test then and see how it works for you | 10:06 |
| kosh | no sendfile by then though | 10:07 |
| betabug | ehm, what's the "sendfile" thing? | 10:07 |
| kosh | well what I did with my own product is when I needed to store files and images I used the builtin zope ones instead of making my own | 10:07 |
| kosh | so to hit all my objects fixing the base types makes the msot sense | 10:07 |
| betabug | yeah | 10:07 |
| kosh | sendfile is something that linux and other unixes have to allow you to stream from a file to a socket | 10:07 |
| betabug | ah, right | 10:08 |
| betabug | I remember that now from some code that TheJester did | 10:08 |
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| kosh | yeah that is where I got the idea for it | 10:08 |
| kosh | with blobs though his code idea becomes VERY simple to make it work | 10:08 |
| kosh | the complex part is doing http range support with it also but it looks like it is all workable at least I think it is | 10:08 |
| betabug | yeah, his was before the blob support IIRC | 10:09 |
| kosh | yeah it was so his only worked with files you had on the filesystem | 10:09 |
| kosh | because we have blobs now I can make that work with any file or image as long as it is turned into a blob first | 10:09 |
| betabug | right | 10:09 |
| betabug | and blogs are stored in some central directory, so backups can just take that directory too, I guess | 10:10 |
| kosh | what I did was add a method called resave_to_blob for File and Image objects so you can do a very simple ZopeFind query and call obj.resave_to_blob() on each one | 10:10 |
| kosh | I have mine setup so that all my zope servers and zeo share the same blob directory | 10:10 |
| betabug | nice | 10:11 |
| kosh | and that also means that when a zope client has to send a blob it wont' be sent over zeo, it can grab it directly | 10:11 |
| kosh | so it removes blobs from hitting zeo | 10:11 |
| betabug | and you can use whatever standard backup tools for that | 10:11 |
| kosh | well right now the backup tool I use is have rackspace backup the entire server :) | 10:11 |
| betabug | yupp | 10:11 |
| kosh | if i need to restore from backup I can make a new server with that backup image | 10:11 |
| kosh | okay well I will work on turning it into a product and then find you so I can give it to you and you can play with it also | 10:13 |
| kosh | probably just fine someplace public to put it and give out some links to it | 10:13 |
| betabug | cool! | 10:13 |
| betabug | yeah, that works well :-) | 10:13 |
| kosh | so far though I am loving the results | 10:13 |
| kosh | well I will see you later I need to head out | 10:14 |
| betabug | ok, cya! | 10:14 |
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| moo_ | is it possible to temporarily disable event dispatch? | 12:16 |
| betabug | wouldn't that mess up e.g. adding objects in a big way? | 12:16 |
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| moo_ | betabug: "temporarily" :) | 12:33 |
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| moo_ | i.e just for one function call | 12:33 |
| betabug | how would you know that nobody adds an object right that moment in another thread? | 12:34 |
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| giampaolo | hi, is there something which is recommended for doing template batching (I mean, display a lot of results in different pages)? I noticed there's z3c.batching but wondered if there's something else as well | 18:11 |
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| mgedmin | z3c.table supports batching | 18:14 |
| mgedmin | (it's built on top of z3c.batching, or, rather, z3c.batching was split off z3c.table) | 18:15 |
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| CIA-82 | regebro regebro-python3 * r118520 zc.buildout/src/zc/buildout/ (tests.py buildout.py testing.py buildout.txt): Various fixes. Encountered a bug in distribute, solved in http://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/changeset/226bd89d1d69 | 19:32 |
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| CIA-82 | janwijbrand janjaapdriessen-resource-publisher * r118521 hurry.resource/src/hurry/resource/ (publisher.py __init__.py README.txt core.py wsgi.py): move generating a library URL to the library class | 19:49 |
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| CIA-82 | regebro regebro-python3 * r118522 zc.buildout/ (5 files in 2 dirs): easy_install.txt passes under Python 3.1. | 21:18 |
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| giampaolo | I'm searching for a method do get the current url including request arguments. Something like http://localhost/something?foo=1 | 23:03 |
| sm | giampaolo: should be all in the request object. The syntax for getting that depends on where you are | 23:15 |
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| giampaolo | ok, I found out | 23:18 |
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